Now, now! Don't get all hot under the collar and start backpedaling! Like I said, if you want to "take the ****" then do your homework next time! Otherwise, if you just wade in, what exactly did you expect to happen?
Sadly, while "taking the ****", you were disputing what Saracens have done. The facts I listed were in response to the sarky comments about Saracen's Academy scheme and so on which were completely wrong. Its not my opinion, its a simple fact.
Anyway, enjoy Tom Ryder, he's a good player! [/b]
Look, your not listening to a thing I'm saying. Your looking for another one of your "wins", which I'm about to let you have as it obviously matters to you so much.
So, finally I'm not hot under the collar, so you are wrong about that. Is that possible? You being wrong about any detail?
I haven't backpedalled on anything, I just believe anyones got the right to post throw-away comments on any subject and their basic point can survive even if their sentences are pulled apart and analysed to have slight flaws. Saracens local talent development, whilst from what you have said is very good, it's still poor by the standards which NZ or other SH teams generally hold themselves to have.
You said, "Like I said, if you want to "take the ****" then do your homework next time!". Well, I'm sure in your world, people who satarise any subject must spend their lives researching the material they want to mock. For myself and many others, we don't have to live up to your standards.
"Sadly, while "taking the ****", you were disputing what Saracens have done". I may as well clarify myself. I was meant to make a general comment about UK and European teams buying SH players and how in general it seems that they don't develop enough local talent.
"The facts I listed were in response to the sarky comments about Saracen's Academy scheme and so on which were completely wrong. Its not my opinion, its a simple fact." I never made a reference to Saracen's Academy scheme specifically. I just was sarcastically saying that Saracen's obviously have a hole in their local development which has needed to be filled by going to a South African.
As for your comment, "Anyway, enjoy Tom Ryder, he's a good player!". Well, he may be good or whatever. I honestly don't know how he'll do until he starts. He'll no doubt be made welcome. If your point made by raising his name is to say, "Well you guys buy our nations players", then it's a weak point. The in-flow of players from the UK and Europe to play in NZ local competitions is ridiculously low compared to what is happening in reverse.
The loss of talent to cheque-books from the NH is a major problem for the Tri-Nations and it's going to become dire for us over the next few years if the flow of players continues. This is a major and hurtful problem for all of us on this side of the equator and of course sometimes we are going to make a few cheap shots back about it. If the situation was in reverse, I can imagine how much different some of the views we hear from the north would be.
Look I don't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting you to understand or accept 1% of what I've said. I have made this post to hopefully clear up a few things. If I haven't, well I tried. I'm not going to call you a fool, because obviously you aren't, but I think it's obvious to myself that you are not a person who often, if ever makes concessions of even the smallest points to anyone. I can't continue to waste my time when it'd better be spent talking to someone who can see some of my points and I can see some of theirs. In this case I can see most of where your coming from and appreciate about half of it, but it obvious you won't have a grain of anything I say, period.
So, there's your victory or whatever it is you'll doubtlessly claim. There's a finite amount of time for me to waste in one discussion as I have a daughter to raise from home and I only get so long where she's asleep. I'm not using her as an excuse, I'm just a little too busy nowadays for more than a couple of posts this long a month.
Go Saracens.
