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Southern Hemisphere Squads?

Cheers Fran, Argentina squads are also welcome. This might just be my general ignorance of SH Rugby but how come alot of people have left Roks and Sivivatu out of their All Black squads?

I've been watching Gear and Jane on the NH tour and have been highly impressed with their preformance, but why have Roks and Sivivatu been completely dropped from the squad?

Sorry if I seem stupid asking this question. :D
 
Cheers Fran, Argentina squads are also welcome. This might just be my general ignorance of SH Rugby but how come alot of people have left Roks and Sivivatu out of their All Black squads?

I've been watching Gear and Jane on the NH tour and have been highly impressed with their preformance, but why have Roks and Sivivatu been completely dropped from the squad?

Sorry if I seem stupid asking this question. :D

Gear is making breaks, unlike Rokocoko, and Sivivatu is currently injured - he'll be a beast when he gets back on the field though.
 
Quite an interesting idea, I'm sure mine will raise some eyebrows. In My list I'll assume a player is fit so I can include injured players. 16/14 split

1, Tony Woodcock 86
2, Kevin Mealamu 88
3, Owen Franks 83
4, Anthony Boric 87
5, Sam Whitelock 87
6, Jerome Kaino 88
7, Richie McCaw 97
8, Kieran Read 94
9, Peri Weepu 91
10, Dan carter 96
11, Israel Dagg 90
12, Sonny Bill Williams 90
13, Conrad Smith 92
14, Cory Jane 89
15, Mils Muliaina 94

16, Hika Elliot 81
17, Ben Franks 84
18, Brad Thorn 86
19, Liam Messam 83
20, Alby Mathewson 84
21, Stephen Donald 84
22, Richard Kahui 90

23, Ma'a Nonu 89
24, John Afoa 80
25, Victor Vito 81
26, Tom Donnely 83
27, Brendon Leonard 84
28, Andrew Hore 81
29, Colin Slade 82
30, Hosea Gear 85

I cant rate Ali Williams after almost two whole years out tough I really hope he comes back as good as ever because he would score ~93 by his form back in 2008.

Sivivatu has been the best wing in the world at times but long time out with injury and he looked a shadow of his former self in those couple of games for waikato.

Rokocoko has lost his cutting edge in test rugby, hes no longer a reliable source for trys. All Black's of the last decade or more seemed to score a crap load of trys from their #11 and as good as roks has been in other areas of the game it's been a really dry run for trys. Dagg, Gear & Kahui all made better fists of the chances they got playing 11. Kahui scored the 2nd best individuel AB try of the year in the chance he got and looked dangerous every time he got the ball and Dagg scored the best indiviuel AB try of the year and finished off another critical match winner vs. SA as well.

Jimmy Cowan has been an awesome All Black had a really important year for the AB's in 2008, great tackler, kicker and compedator around the ball. But AB's dont need another loose forward IMO they need FAST BALL and IMO Jimmy hasn't been fast enough for a couple of years and under the new rules that suit ball running 9's the best he can do is hit the ball up. Hope he gets back to his best for next year but right now I dont think he's good enough.

Leonard is injury prone - partly because he's so dam committed in everything he does on attack and defence he really puts his body on the line, but when he's fit and fireing he is the most lethal attacking 9 in NZ and he produces lightning fast ball. Really it's only the fact he's injury prone that stops me from rating him above Mathewson.

Peri Weepu - IMO weepu is critical to the AB's chances of winning the world cup. With the tallent and ability he has he should be without a doubt the best 9 in the world. But he has fitness issues and he's often just too relaxed in his approach to the game and the team environment. He've had glimpses of just how good he is this year and I hope like hell he's back to his best for the WC.

I'm not a huge fan of Braid I'd rather have Vito in the squad. Even they aren't spec 7's I think vito or Messam in particular would be better cover for McCaw.

I know some/most people wont agree with me but if the world cup was tomorrow I'd pick sonny Bill over Nonu. Sonny Bill has so much to learn but still he's not put a foot wrong and he has an undeniable and unique ability to attack and a great head & work ethic for big games. As awesome as nonu is he's prone to trying to do too much when things dont go his way and also dropping off more tackles than he should inbetween such class defenders as Carter & Conrad smith.

Been really impressed with Hika's work around the field but most importantly his throwing has been spot on. Come WC time lineout throwing is going to become critical because against Aus & SA in particular as long as the AB's lineout is running at a respectable level we shouldn't lose.
 
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Here is my pick

1 Tony Woodcock 87
2 Kevin Mealamu 89
3 Owen Franks 83
4 Brad Thorn 86
5 Ali Williams 85
6 Jerome Kaino 86
7 Richie McCaw 98
8 Keiran Read 84
9 Piri Weepu 87
10 Daniel Carter 98
11 Israel Dagg 86
12 Ma'a Nonu 85
13 Conrad Smith 87
14 Corey Jane 89
15 Mils Muliaina 95

16 Andrew Hore 84
17 Ben Franks 82
18 Adam Thomson 85
19 Liam Messam 82
20 Jimmy Cowan 83
21 Colin Slade 82
22 Sonny Bill Williams 85

23 Hika Elliot 81
24 John Afoa 81
25 Tom Donnely 83
26 Daniel Braid 81
27 Brendon Leonard 82
28 Hosea Gear 83
29 Isaia Toeava 85
30 Aaron Cruden 84
 
i'll have go at this

Tendai Mtwarira 83
Bismarck du Plessis 89
Jannie du Plessis 82
Bakkies Botha 88
Victor Matfield 93
Deon Stegmann 82
Juan Smith 90
Pierre Spies 85
Ruan Pienaar 85
Morne Steyn 84
Bryan Habana 91 -15 after this years form
Jean de Villiers 86
Frans Steyn 86
Bjorn Basson 84
Gio Aplon 82

Chiliboy Ralepelle 82
CJ van der Linde 84
Flip van der Merwe 82
Keegan Daniel 83
Francois Hougaard 88
Zane Kirchner 77
Pat Lambie 84


Andries Bekker 89
Heinrich Brussow 90
Fourie Du Preez 96
Jaques Fourie 88
Guthro Steenkamp 87
John Smit 80
Juan de jong 86
 
I'll do the Aussies since no one has

1. Benn Robinson 82
2. Stephen Moore 85
3. Salesi Ma'afu 80
4.Dean Mumm 83
5. Nathan Sharpe 87
6. Rocky Elsom 89
7. David Pocock 94
8. Richard Brown 82

9. Will Genia 85
10. Quade Cooper 89
11. Drew Mitchell 85
12. Matt Giteau 92
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper 84
14. James O'Connor 84
15. Kurtley Beale 86

16. Saia Fainga'a 80
17. Ben Alexander 83
18. Mark Crisholm 80
19. Matt Hodgson 82
20. Luke Burgess 82
21. Berrick Barnes 85
22. Lachie Turner 81
 
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I'll do the Aussies since no one has

1. Benn Robinson 82
2. Stephen Moore 85
3. Salesi Ma'afu 80
4.Dean Mumm 83
5. Nathan Sharpe 87
6. Rocky Elsom 89
7. David Pocock84
8. Richard Brown 82

9. Will Genia 85
10. Quade Cooper 89
11. Drew Mitchell 85
12. Matt Giteau 92
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper 84
14. James O'Connor 84
15. Kurtley Beale 86

16. Saia Fainga'a 80
17. Ben Alexander 83
18. Mark Crisholm 80
19. Matt Hodgson 82
20. Luke Burgess 82
21. Berrick Barnes 85
22. Lachie Turner 81

Wow Pocock only 84!? That's a surprise! :eek:
 
Truely, swap Pocock and Gits' ratings around. Pocock is the best Wallaby player by a mile.

(edit) .. make that 4 miles.

ok i'll change it but keep in mind im NOT an aussie fan(at all) so a lot of these ratings may be wrong

AND gitau is one of the best centers in the world, no one has his vision and pure instincts with rugby.
 
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Australia

1. Benn Robinson 89
2. Tatafu-Polota Nau 90
3. Salesi Ma'afu 78
4. Rob Simmons 80
5. Nathan Sharpe 87
6. Rocky Elsom 84
7. David Pocock 92
8. Ben McCalman 81
9. Will Genia 89
10. Quade Cooper 84
11. Drew Mitchell 85
12. Berrick Barnes 88
13. Adam Ashley-Cooper 93
14. James O'Connor 82
15. Kurtley Beale 89

16. Stephen Moore 82
17. James Slipper 77
18. Mark Chisolm 79
19. Julian Salvi 82
20. Luke Burgess 78
21. Anthony Fainga'a 81
22. Digby Ioane 83

23. Saia Fainga'a 78
24. Ben Daley 75
25. Dean Mumm 79
26. Scott Higginbotham 82
27. Matt Hodgson 83
28. Nick Phipps 76
29. Matt Giteau 75
30. Lachlan Turner 81
 
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