Southern Hemisphere Squads?

[GalwayCanuck5]

Hi guys, I'm looking for some people to help me with a little project. I need people who know a thing ot two about Southern Hemisphere rugby to post squads of thirty for any of the big Southern Hemisphere teams. I'd also appreciate it if you could leave a rating out of 100 beside the player name.

Just an example,

All Blacks
1. Tony Woodcock 84
2. Andrew Hore 82
3. Owen Franks 82
4. Brad Thorn 81

etc.

Please ignore any current injuires and if there are players who play in Europe at the moment, who you feel could make the squad for your country feel free to include them!

I'd do it myself put I really don't know enough about the Southern Hemisphere sides! Any help is much appreciated! If you've got any questions just ask, Thanks!

 

[Black Heart]

This is the team I would pick. Keeping in mind that some of these players arn't in this years touring squad nor will some people agree with who I've got.

1. Tony Woodcock 85
2. Kevin Mealamu 89
3. Owen Franks 84
4. Brad Thorn 86
5. Ali Williams 85
6. Jerome Kaino 83
7. Richie McCaw 97
8. Kieran Read 83
9. Piri Weepu 86
10. Daniel Carter 95
11. Hosea Gear 81
12. Ma'a Nonu 87
13. Conrad Smith 87
14. Cory Jane 83
15. Mils Muliaina 92

16. Andrew Hore 84
17. Ben Franks 80
18. Sam Whitelock 81
19. Liam Messam 81
20. Alby Mattewson 83
21. Colin Slade 79
22. Sonny Bill Williams 88


23. Hikawera Elliot 82
24. John Afoa 82
25. Tom Donnelly 85
26. Daniel Braid 81
27. Jimmy Cowan 82
28. Aaron Cruden 78
29. Rene Ranger 84
30. Israel Dagg 85

 

[GalwayCanuck5]

This is the team I would pick. Keeping in mind that some of these players arn't in this years touring squad nor will some people agree with who I've got.

1. Tony Woodcock 85
2. Kevin Mealamu 89
3. Owen Franks 84
4. Brad Thorn 86
5. Ali Williams 85
6. Jerome Kaino 83
7. Richie McCaw 97
8. Kieran Read 83
9. Piri Weepu 86
10. Daniel Carter 95
11. Hosea Gear 81
12. Ma'a Nonu 87
13. Conrad Smith 87
14. Cory Jane 83
15. Mils Muliaina 92

16. Andrew Hore 84
17. Ben Franks 80
18. Sam Whitelock 81
19. Liam Messam 81
20. Alby Mattewson 83
21. Colin Slade 79
22. Sonny Bill Williams 88


23. Hikawera Elliot 82
24. John Afoa 82
25. Tom Donnelly 85
26. Daniel Braid 81
27. Jimmy Cowan 82
28. Aaron Cruden 78
29. Rene Ranger 84
30. Israel Dagg 85

Cheers mate, perfect example of what I'm looking for.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

This is the team I would pick. Keeping in mind that some of these players arn't in this years touring squad nor will some people agree with who I've got.

1. Tony Woodcock 85
2. Kevin Mealamu 89
3. Owen Franks 84
4. Brad Thorn 86
5. Ali Williams 85
6. Jerome Kaino 83
7. Richie McCaw 97
8. Kieran Read 83
9. Piri Weepu 86 lower
10. Daniel Carter 95
11. Hosea Gear 81
12. Ma'a Nonu 87 lower
13. Conrad Smith 87 lower
14. Cory Jane 83 higher
15. Mils Muliaina 92

16. Andrew Hore 84 higher
17. Ben Franks 80
18. Sam Whitelock 81
19. Liam Messam 81
20. Alby Mattewson 83 lower
21. Colin Slade 79 higher
22. Sonny Bill Williams 88 lower


23. Hikawera Elliot 82
24. John Afoa 82 lower
25. Tom Donnelly 85
26. Daniel Braid 81
27. Jimmy Cowan 82 higher
28. Aaron Cruden 78
29. Rene Ranger 84 lower
30. Israel Dagg 85 lower

Add
CT Richard Kahui 84
HB Brendon Leonard 82
FH Stephen Donald 82
WG Sitiveni Siviatu 86

 

[GalwayCanuck5]

Thanks for your input Inivctus, but please post your own team rather than editing someone else's. Cheers.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Okey dokey...

1 Tony Woodcock 87
2 Andrew Hore 89
3 Owen Franks 84
4 Brad Thorn 86
5 Ali Williams 85
6 Jerome Kaino 83
7 Richie McCaw 96
8 Keiran Read 84
9 Jimmy Cowan 83
10 Daniel Carter 96
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu 86
12 Ma'a Nonu 84
13 Conrad Smith 85
14 Corey Jane 85
15 Mils Muliaina 92

16 Kevin Mealamu 87
17 Ben Franks 82
18 Sam Whitelock 82
19 Liam Messam 82
20 Piri Weepu 83
21 Stephen Donald 82
22 Richard Kahui 84

23 Hika Elliot 81
24 John Afoa 81
25 Tom Donnely 83
26 Daniel Braid 81
27 Brendon Leonard 82
28 Sonny Bill Williams 83
29 Isaia Toeava 83
30 Israel Dagg 84

 

[Black Heart]

Add
CT Richard Kahui 84
HB Brendon Leonard 82
FH Stephen Donald 82
WG Sitiveni Siviatu 86

I'm just throwing this out there...

... you're not a Chiefs fan by any chance?


Donald does not deserve to be in the All Blacks. As good as he is at provincial rugby he stumbles every time at test level.
Richard Kahui is a tough one because obviously centre is the most hotly contested position at the moment.
Sivivatu has butter fingers and poor defence.

 

[Black Heart]

Cheers mate, perfect example of what I'm looking for.

You could have either Rene Ranger or Robbie Fruen in the reserves, Fruen didn't cross my mind at first.

 

[Black Heart]

Okey dokey...

1 Tony Woodcock 87
2 Andrew Hore 89
3 Owen Franks 84
4 Brad Thorn 86
5 Ali Williams 85
6 Jerome Kaino 83
7 Richie McCaw 96
8 Keiran Read 84
9 Jimmy Cowan 83
10 Daniel Carter 96
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu 86
12 Ma'a Nonu 84
13 Conrad Smith 85
14 Corey Jane 85
15 Mils Muliaina 92

16 Kevin Mealamu 87
17 Ben Franks 82
18 Sam Whitelock 82
19 Liam Messam 82
20 Piri Weepu 83
21 Stephen Donald 82
22 Richard Kahui 84

23 Hika Elliot 81
24 John Afoa 81
25 Tom Donnely 83
26 Daniel Braid 81
27 Brendon Leonard 82
28 Sonny Bill Williams 83
29 Isaia Toeava 83
30 Israel Dagg 84

Don't agree with Weepu being on the bench. He has much better vision than Cowan, he's a stronger runner, better kicker and he's faster at the breakdown.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

I'm just throwing this out there...

... you're not a Chiefs fan by any chance?


Donald does not deserve to be in the All Blacks. As good as he is at provincial rugby he stumbles every time at test level.
Richard Kahui is a tough one because obviously centre is the most hotly contested position at the moment.
Sivivatu has butter fingers and poor defence.

Donald is a better choice than Cruden, at least in the short run. If these teams are as realistic as possible then Donald should also be in, as he is in real life.

And Sivivatu in my opinion the best winger in the world.

Don't agree with Weepu being on the bench. He has much better vision than Cowan, he's a stronger runner, better kicker and he's faster at the breakdown.

As you'll see I have both players with the same ratings - I think Weepu is a better finisher, have them play one half each.

 

[Black Heart]

And Sivivatu in my opinion the best winger in the world.

His attack is great but that's all he has going for him. His defence is hopless, he drops the ball in the tackle and he's even worse under the high ball.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

His attack is great but that's all he has going for him. His defence is hopless, he drops the ball in the tackle and he's even worse under the high ball.

Well he's played fullback for the Chiefs on a number of occasions, I think you're mistaken.

 

[Black Heart]

Well he's played fullback for the Chiefs on a number of occasions, I think you're mistaken.

That proves nothing. That's like saying if you stick Woodcock at fullback he'll catch all the high balls. Look I definatly like Sivivatu on attack and when he's playing well there are very few who come close to him. But for what he does on attack he lacks in ball handling and tackling.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

That proves nothing. That's like saying if you stick Woodcock at fullback he'll catch all the high balls. Look I definatly like Sivivatu on attack and when he's playing well there are very few who come close to him. But for what he does on attack he lacks in ball handling and tackling.

If Woodcock had played on the wing before you'd assume he had a bit of pace, no?

 

[Black Heart]

If Woodcock had played on the wing before you'd assume he had a bit of pace, no?

You missed the point. DW.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

I'm not saying if you put someone in a position they automatically gain the skills, but if someone has been playing in a position you'd have to assume they have the skills required, to an extent, no?

 

[GalwayCanuck5]

Nice opinions guys I'll be sure to take them on board. Anyone else feel like contributing an All Blacks squad? Don't forget I'm accepting Boks and Wallabies squads too!

 

[Black Heart]

I'm not saying if you put someone in a position they automatically gain the skills, but if someone has been playing in a position you'd have to assume they have the skills required, to an extent, no?

Explain Stephen Donald then...

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Explain Stephen Donald then...

There are already threads where that's been discussed.

 

[Tank94]

Well, that settles the All Blacks.

I'll set up the Boks.

1. Tendai "Beast" Mtawarira 83
2. Bismarck du Plessis 85
3. Jannie du Plessis 82
4. Bakkies Botha 87
5. Victor Matfield 90
6. Schalck Burger 95
7. Juan Smith 89
8. Willem Alberts 84 (a new bok but still very good)

9. Fourie du Preez 92
10. Morne Steyn 88
11. Bryan Habana 89
12. Jean de Villiers 88
13. Jaque Fourie 90
14. Bjorn Basson 83
15. Gio Aplon. 85

16. John Smit 84
17. CJ van der Linde 83
18. Andries Bekker 86
19. Heinrich Brusow 87 (he's been injured for a long time but still an excellent player.)
20. Francois Hougaard 86
21. Francois Steyn 86
22. Patrick Lambie 84

23.Tiaan Liebenberg 83
24. Guthro Steenkamp 82
25. Flip van der Merwe 82
26. Duane Vermeulen 85 (a lot of other good loose forwards could be put here for example danie rossouw or pierre spies)
27. Ruan Pienaar 83
28. Peter Grant 85
29. Juan de Jongh 84
30. Lwazi Mvovo 82 ( or JP Pietersen)