"The Lions - How to stop Pierre Spies and Morné Steyn"

[munross]

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Pierre Spies..."Hunting down his prey on the big African plains" :lol: :lol: :lol:

and they talk about Morne Steyn slotting drop goals from 55m at altitude, thats good ,so they seem to have forgotten the other Steyn, Francois Steyn that can slot drop goals from 60+ meters at sea level B) .

So just imagine.... fly half:Morne Steyn + full back:Francois Steyn = a ssssh!t load of points from about anywhere on field

can't wait for the Tests to start B)

 

[Jer1cho]

Is that Will Greenwood? Who is it? He is having an orgasm over Spies... What a fag...

 

[munross]

Haha yes that is Will Greenwood, Spies will own the Lions!!

 

[Steve-o]

Lets not hype Spies too much here.
Behind a dominate pack he is almost unmatched, yes, but when his tight 5 are struggling he disappears.
This is a very vulnerable aspect of his game. He not a complete 8 yet.

 

[Bullitt]

Oh look... Anyone remember the Rugby Club getting a boner over Tuilagi for the HEC semi in one of these "features", despite the fact he was banned!

Rugby Club FTL.

 

[Sir Speedy]

I remember that.

"And this is why Tuilagi is threat that Cardiff would need to monitor, if he was playing."

Picard-palm. ¬_¬

 

[munross]

Pierre Spies can't get banned or injured, he is immune to all that ^_^

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Intercept King JdV @ Jun 3 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Pierre Spies can't get banned or injured, he is immune to all that ^_^[/b]

Just the occasional bloot clots gets him down... Anyway, Spies is aweaome. I watched Total rugby the other day, and they had a piece on him. He is built like a brick ****-house, and runs the 100m in 10.7s!!!

Has to be the fastest forward on the planet...

 

[shazbooger]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Jun 3 2009, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Has to be the fastest forward on the planet...[/b]

Not when he's stuck in the middle of a maul

 

[dundeesmiffy]

I'm surprised they didn't mention using a lot of back row moves to get him out of first and second phase ball, it only seems logical to me.

 

[cyRil]

Stephen Ferris would chase him down.
Or Ryan Kankowski? Oh, wait. He isn't the second coming anymore... Is that right?

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cyRil of Ospreylia @ Jun 4 2009, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Stephen Ferris would chase him down.
Or Ryan Kankowski? Oh, wait. He isn't the second coming anymore... Is that right?[/b]

He IS still my favorite. Kankowski is class. Spies is just in his best form at the moment. Ryan Kankowski is genuinly a joy to watch at his best. One of the most exciting back-rowers in SH rugby.

 

[Hall]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Jun 3 2009, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Intercept King JdV @ Jun 3 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pierre Spies can't get banned or injured, he is immune to all that ^_^[/b]

Has to be the fastest forward on the planet...
[/b][/quote]

Tom Croft might have something to say about that!

 

[MunsterMan]

You see, instead of the stupid sky adds they could have made an add which had Croft, Kankowski, Ferris and Spies doing sprint tests to see who is fastest, My money is on Ferris over 20m, Croft over 100 ^_^

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Jun 4 2009, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

You see, instead of the stupid sky adds they could have made an add which had Croft, Kankowski, Ferris and Spies doing sprint tests to see who is fastest, My money is on Ferris over 20m, Croft over 100 ^_^[/b]

Granted Croft is pretty fast. But he is no sprinter. That guy Spies is burning in my avatar is a 12... He also played wing in his school career, and even for the Bulls. Kankowski is also extremely fast. Sosene Anesi managed to run down Tommy Bowe in the Baa Baa's match last year, yet in the Super14 final last week, he couldn't catch Spies. Pierre Spies has to be the fastest. Anyone got some footage of Croft showing his pace?

Also, some think that Stephen Donald of the Chiefs is among the fastest 10's in world rugby, yet he failed to catch Kankowski in one of the matches... So honestly, i think it's between Spies and Kankowski. I have not seen enough of Croft to think he is as fast. So if someone has any videos, post em.

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Stephen Ferris would chase him down.[/b]

:lol:

 

[MunsterMan]

David Wallace, who played openside last night is apparently the fastest player in the Munster squad over 5, 10 and 20 metres. Munster have player like Doug Howlett, Lifemi Mafi and Keith Earls who are considered extremely quick. I presume you saw Ferris' 75m effort last night? He is also the fastest player in the Ulster squad over 20m. There was a clip of Croft taking a winger on the outside and scoring in the corner for England Saxons in the Churchill cup on youtube before it it is gone, but he is undoubtedly very fast, as he also showed last night.

Pierre Spies is in a league of his own when it comes to genetic freakishness and Power/Pace combined, but don't underestimate the pace/power of our players either, although we may end up with Simon Shaw and Joe Worsley who stick out like sore thumbs.

 

[Jer1cho]

Yeah Ferris was motoring man! But from what i have seen of Croft, is pretty good. He is seriously fast. Glides when he runs. It would be a really interesting race!

 

[Bullitt]

Croft is the fastest player in the Leicester squad; Until his move to Gloucester this summer, Varndell was the only guy quicker over 100m. In the 2007 Churchill cup final, he gassed Shannon Paku and Scott Waldrom over 60m to score the winning try.

 

[Cymro]

Croft is an animal!

 

[shazbooger]

Jesus were all get excited arent we.

Ferris has nowhere near the same pace as Spies or Croft, but he hits a **** lot harder. I'll take the hard hitter thank you, leave the namby pambying to the flowers out in the backs.

Croft on the other hand, for a second row / blind side is lightning fast. He left a S14 winger for dead last night.

I dont understand what the big deal about Spies is about really, he aint Lomu. He runs, he'll get tackled. Its not as if the Lions are going to tackle like a Super 14 team.

 

[monkeypigeon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Jun 4 2009, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Jesus were all get excited arent we.

Ferris has nowhere near the same pace as Spies or Croft, but he hits a **** lot harder. I'll take the hard hitter thank you, leave the namby pambying to the flowers out in the backs.

Croft on the other hand, for a second row / blind side is lightning fast. He left a S14 winger for dead last night.

I dont understand what the big deal about Spies is about really, he aint Lomu. He runs, he'll get tackled. Its not as if the Lions are going to tackle like a Super 14 team.[/b]

Ferris beat a winger over a longer distance....

Anyway, yeah! They're all awesome. I love the Geech interview where he says he told Croft when he was called up that he wouldn't be allowed to arse around on the wing like he does for Leicester and that's why he was nackered after 60 . Seriously though, Croft was class yesterday and I was complaining that he wasn't starting all through the 6N go back and check if you wish.

But he can't clear a ruck like Ferris and he doesn't have that much speed over him.

It's a win/win whoever we pick.

And can we stop talking about Croft beating the wing yesterday, Croft was going forward, the wing had to stop adn turn so over a short distance Ross Ford would have done the same.

 

[Boondocksaint]

Hahaha cant wait! We should probably just all calm down and wait for the tests to start. Spies is a super human and is stil young. In a few years he wil be the ultimate 8 NO DOUBT! :bravo:

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Jun 4 2009, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Jesus were all get excited arent we.

Ferris has nowhere near the same pace as Spies or Croft, but he hits a **** lot harder. I'll take the hard hitter thank you, leave the namby pambying to the flowers out in the backs.

Croft on the other hand, for a second row / blind side is lightning fast. He left a S14 winger for dead last night.

I dont understand what the big deal about Spies is about really, he aint Lomu. He runs, he'll get tackled. Its not as if the Lions are going to tackle like a Super 14 team.[/b]

He is a fuss, because it's very rare to see an 8th man score the kind of tries that he does. He is one of the most talented players we have, and has been in amazing form. For the record, the winger that Croft beat last night has never played a Super14 game in his life. Also, he is exceptionally slow for a winger. Take nothing away from Croft though, he is really fast, and i think between him, Spies and Kankowski, nobody honestly knows who would win.

I was watching some tries that Croft has scored. Jeezaz he motors. He has massive strides! Don't think England have ever had a player like him before. But like i said, Kankowski and Spies whoop backs week in and week out. Look at that Will Greenwood video, and notice with that Matfield kick through at how fast Spies runs after the ball. He races a winger, and gains ground on him pretty easily. That is just insane.

Also, nobody said he was a Lomu, because he aint. He is just the complete package. Strength, Speed and skill. But ultimately, he needs a good forward pack to be of any real threat. He is not really a player that can create something out of nothing. That's where both Croft and Kankowski are better than him.

 

[Bullitt]

Don't forget to mention Ferris or woah betide you(!!1!!11!!!ONEELEVEN!1!)

 

[Cymro]

The bigger they are the harder they fall ...

 

[Jer1cho]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k5lhcSRA9ksD9kY7Pb

00:27 for Spies, who pretty much overtakes the guy...

01:49 for Kankowski. Gets chased by a 12, who then gives up when he realizes who he is chasing i think...

Come on guys! I wanna see more of Croft!

 

[Hall]

I can't find any videos of Croft but we'll just have to take Aaron Mauger's word for it, who claims that Croft is the quickest back row forward he has ever seen. It is true that only the winger Tom Varndell was faster than him at Leicester and Varndell can run a 10.8 100m on grass... in his socks.

Then there's his lineout ability...

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hall @ Jun 4 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I can't find any videos of Croft but we'll just have to take Aaron Mauger's word for it, who claims that Croft is the quickest back row forward he has ever seen. It is true that only the winger Tom Varndell was faster than him at Leicester and Varndell can run a 10.8 100m on grass... in his socks.

Then there's his lineout ability...[/b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5b-7HzunVo

Spies runs the 100m in 10.7seconds...

 

[Hall]

I know. My Great Uncle and his wife and kids who are South African never shut up about him.

The point about Varndell is that he's pretty much the same pace but in his socks! Plus, Varndell is a big lad, 6'4 and 106kg.

 

[Hall]

Also, someone was talking about Stephen Donald as a fast 10. Danny Cipriani has to be one of the fastest Fly Halves, he's quicker than Paul Sackey over 60m.

So while we're on the subject of pace, does anyone know what Matt Banahan's 100m time is?