U20 6 Nations 2025

[BPM]

This is such a overrated England team I feel, It has benefited from a very weak France and Ireland U20's

Tuipolotou is mop the only one I would say is outright destined for Test rugby currently

Not Kpoku?

 

[dirty harry]

This is such a overrated England team I feel, It has benefited from a very weak France and Ireland U20's

Tuipolotou is mop the only one I would say is outright destined for Test rugby currently

That's harsh....

Ireland aren't weak, they've returned to normal, and France haven't got the freak islanders available.

This England team is incredibly powerful, and athletic, they just need higher ceilings to make pro rugbythan the celts

 

[Ddanno]

Kane James looks alright too

 

[dirty harry]

This is pretty much exactly how I imagine the senior game going tomorrow.

I hope to christ you are right!!!!

 

[dirty harry]

Kane James looks alright too

Tighthead has had a cracking year. Looks eager and nasty in contact, as does the hooker, shame he can't throw a ball straight

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

That's harsh....

Ireland aren't weak, they've returned to normal, and France haven't got the freak islanders available.

This England team is incredibly powerful, and athletic, they just need higher ceilings to make pro rugbythan the celts

Ireland lost two games in this tournament from 2019 - 2024. This is not normal from us lol.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

This is such a overrated England team I feel, It has benefited from a very weak France and Ireland U20's

Tuipolotou is mop the only one I would say is outright destined for Test rugby currently

IMO,, it's a good but not great group of players, let down by the halfbacks

 

[dirty harry]

Ireland lost two games in this tournament from 2019 - 2024. This is not normal from us lol.

And they went 9 years before that without challenging....

Let's be honest, Ireland had a really good generation who went unbeaten 22/23 and went close 24, outside of that they've been pretty average.

I get there's a huge amount of money in Ireland currently, a lot of governing bodies utilising the Dublin tax breaks, and European rugby being Dublin centric, but Ireland u20s history isn't typically challenging for GS every year...

Irelands age grade has benefited hugely from the financial incentives, and fair play to them, but England are the continuous powerhouse, the idea England needed Ireland to return to the usual to win is laughable

 

[dirty harry]

IMO,, it's a good but not great group of players, let down by the halfbacks

This is a very good point, half backs aren't great for England, they seem to create uncertainty around them

 

[Quel Carreleur]

I'm not sure he's got that, but he/Wales deserves it

ETA, yeah he has - good finish

 

[dirty harry]

I can't believe Bowen passed the ball...

That's the first of the season for him haha

 

[IT157]

This game is going to go like tomorrow. Not too sure why I'm going to torture myself for two days in a row...

 

[dirty harry]

Superb finish from Weldon

This game is going to go like tomorrow. Not too sure why I'm going to torture myself for two days in a row...

Please!!!!

 

[IT157]

Excellent conversion.

 

[dirty harry]

Excellent conversion.

How can Wilde do that but no welsh senior can?!?!?

Also restart again ffs

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Not Kpoku?

He ain't bad, but personally I feel he's massively overhyped. If he was 2 inches shorter would the press be on him?

I think he has the potential, but right now the only player from this group that I could say with confidence baring injuries to make test rugby is Kepu

 

[dirty harry]

Disgracefull to give that penalty, no chance he meant to kick the ball...

Penalised for winning the ruck contest

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

And they went 9 years before that without challenging....

Let's be honest, Ireland had a really good generation who went unbeaten 22/23 and went close 24, outside of that they've been pretty average.

I get there's a huge amount of money in Ireland currently, a lot of governing bodies utilising the Dublin tax breaks, and European rugby being Dublin centric, but Ireland u20s history isn't typically challenging for GS every year...

Irelands age grade has benefited hugely from the financial incentives, and fair play to them, but England are the continuous powerhouse, the idea England needed Ireland to return to the usual to win is laughable

Who said England needed Ireland to return to win?
I said they have benefited from weaker u20's than usual. People been saying this is a cream of the crop for the U20's and I disagree

 

[IT157]

He ain't bad, but personally I feel he's massively overhyped. If he was 2 inches shorter would the press be on him?

I think he has the potential, but right now the only player from this group that I could say with confidence baring injuries to make test rugby is Kepu

What is the conversion rate from under 20 to fully established professional?

 

[TommiG88]

Wales do like a no arms tackle. Dropping shoulders into players, then they attempt to wrap after they’ve bounced the player

 

[dirty harry]

Another awful decision not to give the pen for holding

 

[dirty harry]

No knock on???

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

And they went 9 years before that without challenging....

Let's be honest, Ireland had a really good generation who went unbeaten 22/23 and went close 24, outside of that they've been pretty average.

I get there's a huge amount of money in Ireland currently, a lot of governing bodies utilising the Dublin tax breaks, and European rugby being Dublin centric, but Ireland u20s history isn't typically challenging for GS every year...

Irelands age grade has benefited hugely from the financial incentives, and fair play to them, but England are the continuous powerhouse, the idea England needed Ireland to return to the usual to win is laughable

Grand slam 2019, triple crown 2020 before the last two rounds of the tournament were cancelled. Top Dublin schools regularly beating the top English ones and doing well in world school festivals. This year hasn't been Ireland going back to normal, it's a bad year (with a rake of key injuries compounding it).

Losing to France or England won't ever be unusual, but 1 from 5 is clearly not normal.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

We're allergic to using our backs

 

[dirty harry]

No holding there either?!?!?!?

 

[IT157]

We're allergic to using our backs

The England way.

 

[dirty harry]

That was a strangely one way passage, England should have conceded a few penalties and a knock on...

Wales are holding on physically

 

[Flankers' paradise]

England may be much bigger but basic things like supporting in the rucks are abysmal. One of those there that could/should have been given to wales England's 12 was the only one there to clear the welsh guy out and he just stood watching. Disgraceful. At least with Joe Davies on the ruck service has improved

 

[dirty harry]

Grand slam 2019, triple crown 2020 before the last two rounds of the tournament were cancelled. Top Dublin schools regularly beating the top English ones and doing well in world school festivals. This year hasn't been Ireland going back to normal, it's a bad year (with a rake of key injuries compounding it).

Losing to France or England won't ever be unusual, but 1 from 5 is clearly not normal.

The point is, England are strong every year, they don't need to benefit from Ireland being their usual average after a few years of being good...

Return to normality, Wales and Ireland having a few peaks and troughs

 

[dirty harry]

England may be much bigger but basic things like supporting in the rucks are abysmal. One of those there that could/should have been given to wales England's 12 was the only one there to clear the welsh guy out and he just stood watching. Disgraceful. At least with Joe Davies on the ruck service has improved

This is a very astute observation, England seem to assume they win the rucks and they're not all at the races