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I pointed at that there is a much different skill in League than Union. I.E League Defence is much heavier and backs have to be able to put solid hits on. Far out I have stated this in my other post.
 
Both games are very good at different points.

League is tight making tackling hard important. Union is more open making safe tackling more important.

League emphasises continual movement as a team as one on defence. Union has consistently restructuring in positions with defence.

Both codes have patterns for attack. The main difference is Union drastically revamps it's attacking strategies according to the score while League will not vary too much in attack whether they are 50 points in front or 50 points behind.

Both codes have excellent kickers though Union needs more of it's personnel to have a decent kick.

Both codes have excellent passers though League needs more of it's personnel to have a good pass.

League has a simple clear understanding of the tackle situation while Union interpretaion of the tackle situation can vary immensely. This is because League has an almost no contest of the ball policy while Union stresses the fair but slightly uneven contest at the tackle. League allows for the opportunity for eveness in possession where victory is based on usage of that opportunity while Union bases victory on amount of possession first. Union needs heavier penalties at it's tackle ball situation (instant yellow card) to clean it up from professional fouls.

League calls for a high specialisation of a limited amount of skills while Union calls for balanced overall skills. Good players from both codes are the ones who expand on these fundamentals.

Most popular World Cup: Union (RWC)
Most Popular International Regional Comp: Union (S12)
Most Popular International Comp: Union (6 Nations)
Most Popular National Comp: League (Telstra Premiership)
Most Popular National Rep Comp: League (State of Origin)
 
Well said mate, I totally agree with you on nearlly everything you have said.
 
the NPC is very popular and rolls in some good crowds. The Top NRL Team (Broncs) only had 20000 odd as its average while a Wellington team missing all its AB's averaged around 15000.

Preety good considiring we only about 1/7 of the Australias Population
 
Originally posted by Ripper@Jul 19 2004, 07:41 PM
the NPC is very popular and rolls in some good crowds. The Top NRL Team (Broncs) only had 20000 odd as its average while a Wellington team missing all its AB's averaged around 15000.

Preety good considiring we only about 1/7 of the Australias Population
Broncos average more then that. I think it's about 27 000.
 
But those lists said 20 odd thousand (cant be stuffed checking) and Wigan said their true so they must be...
 
Ripper we have suffientially known that list is crap. But you cannot possibly argue that NPC is bigger than NRL!
 
Originally posted by Ripper+Jul 19 2004, 04:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ripper @ Jul 19 2004, 04:43 AM)</div>
Originally posted by St_Helens_RLFC@Jul 17 2004, 01:06 AM
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@Jul 16 2004, 07:37 PM
Dallaglio?

Where'd you find that picture St Helens?

Found it on another msg board that I post on.
Its a picture of Bush from his Yale Days.

I followed the link and it was a page about Yale's Rugby team (Says Rugby Football up the top wigan so dont bother) [/b]
Don't bother doing what?
 
Originally posted by Ripper@Jul 19 2004, 08:51 AM
But those lists said 20 odd thousand (cant be stuffed checking) and Wigan said their true so they must be...
I haven't said that they're true or that they're not true.
 
Oh please god no photos of George W. Bush.

Just think, if only some forward from Harvard had the chance to smash him . . . actually, given the way he speaks, they probably did.
 
ranfurly shield matches are more popular then an trans tasman league test and a more entertaining and better every year
 
Yep, that's totally lost on me as well...
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Originally posted by Gay-Guy@Jul 19 2004, 06:13 PM
Both games are very good at different points.

League is tight making tackling hard important. Union is more open making safe tackling more important.

League emphasises continual movement as a team as one on defence. Union has consistently restructuring in positions with defence.

Both codes have patterns for attack. The main difference is Union drastically revamps it's attacking strategies according to the score while League will not vary too much in attack whether they are 50 points in front or 50 points behind.

Both codes have excellent kickers though Union needs more of it's personnel to have a decent kick.

Both codes have excellent passers though League needs more of it's personnel to have a good pass.

League has a simple clear understanding of the tackle situation while Union interpretaion of the tackle situation can vary immensely. This is because League has an almost no contest of the ball policy while Union stresses the fair but slightly uneven contest at the tackle. League allows for the opportunity for eveness in possession where victory is based on usage of that opportunity while Union bases victory on amount of possession first. Union needs heavier penalties at it's tackle ball situation (instant yellow card) to clean it up from professional fouls.

League calls for a high specialisation of a limited amount of skills while Union calls for balanced overall skills. Good players from both codes are the ones who expand on these fundamentals.

Most popular World Cup: Union (RWC)
Most Popular International Regional Comp: Union (S12)
Most Popular International Comp: Union (6 Nations)
Most Popular National Comp: League (Telstra Premiership)
Most Popular National Rep Comp: League (State of Origin)
Don't you just love how gay-guy always comes in with these words that make peace between everyone? He's like the UN of the rugby forum.
 
Originally posted by Gay-Guy@Jul 19 2004, 06:13 PM
Both games are very good at different points.

League is tight making tackling hard important. Union is more open making safe tackling more important.

League emphasises continual movement as a team as one on defence. Union has consistently restructuring in positions with defence.

Both codes have patterns for attack. The main difference is Union drastically revamps it's attacking strategies according to the score while League will not vary too much in attack whether they are 50 points in front or 50 points behind.

Both codes have excellent kickers though Union needs more of it's personnel to have a decent kick.

Both codes have excellent passers though League needs more of it's personnel to have a good pass.

League has a simple clear understanding of the tackle situation while Union interpretaion of the tackle situation can vary immensely. This is because League has an almost no contest of the ball policy while Union stresses the fair but slightly uneven contest at the tackle. League allows for the opportunity for eveness in possession where victory is based on usage of that opportunity while Union bases victory on amount of possession first. Union needs heavier penalties at it's tackle ball situation (instant yellow card) to clean it up from professional fouls.

League calls for a high specialisation of a limited amount of skills while Union calls for balanced overall skills. Good players from both codes are the ones who expand on these fundamentals.

Most popular World Cup: Union (RWC)
Most Popular International Regional Comp: Union (S12)
Most Popular International Comp: Union (6 Nations)
Most Popular National Comp: League (Telstra Premiership)
Most Popular National Rep Comp: League (State of Origin)
Agree with everything apart from the telstra premiership being the most popular national comp - it is now no different then the the super 12 - ie. it now includes the New Zealand warriors who are not nationals of Australia, and based in Auckland, New Zealand, and a Wellington team is one of four new teams being considered in the expansion...........
 
Originally posted by Canadian_Rugby_Guy@Jul 22 2004, 06:30 AM
He's like the UN of the rugby forum.
Hopefully he won't be responsible for the murder of a million Rwandans...
 
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Ranfurly shield matches?[/b]
It's a trophy that was given to Auckland by the Fifth Earl of Ranfurly in 1902. Each year different Provinces play a match to try to gain it, during the NPC, and you can only win it by playing the shield holders at their home ground. So this year, if say Canterbury beat Auckland then we'll win the shield off them if they still have it by the time the match rolls around. It's pretty much a king of the table type trophy, that's been a part of New Zealand rugby for over 100 years, so it holds quite a lot of significance here.

There's some more information here : Shield History

I honestly hope that someone other than us, Auckland, or Waikato win it though. It would make it a lot more exciting than it has been in the past couple of years if it moved down south to Otago or Southland, or to Bay of Plenty or somewhere other than Auckland, Canterbury and Waikato.
 
Agree with everything apart from the telstra premiership being the most popular national comp - it is now no different then the the super 12 - ie. it now includes the New Zealand warriors who are not nationals of Australia, and based in Auckland, New Zealand, and a Wellington team is one of four new teams being considered in the expansion........... [/quote]
Oh my gosh!!!! You are right!!! The Telstra Premiership is not a National comp. I had totally forgotten about our Warriors! Hmmmm what does that say about our team at the moment. In fact, I don't even know who they are playing this weekend! We need to change the NZ warriors back to the Auckland Warriors as "NZ" on a team looks bad if you get beaten by a small Aussie suburb. Or maybe Northern Warriors for the North Island and leave a door open for a South Island based league team to enter the premiership in the future. Hmmmm....not too soon future I suppose
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I doubt very highly that this Ranfurly Shield effort generates more interest than a Trans Tasman league test....
 

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