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What Would Happen if...... (Haka Related)

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Careful Shtove! You've been influenced by evil English propaganda! Beware the dangers of English influence!
 
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That was just the English Media drumming up some bullshit to try and make it look like that Mealamu and Umaga dumped BOD on purpose just because of the haka response.

No one cared about BOD's response, it is what an Maori elder told him to do - bring up a younger player and throw a blade of grass in the air.
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Here's BOD's response - pity he couldn't give it on the pitch and express what he really means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQko7s5YpMs
The assault is in the first split second of the coverage - there are better pictures, but can't find them on YT.

Glasshoppah say: Bring up superstar in air and dump him on neck ... he not get up from that. You ween game. Blade of glass stuff all boosheet.

MealyMouth and Umaga should both have been red-carded. End of.
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Can't be stuffed wasting the bandwith watching his "response" - is it the one where he tells a bunch of lies about the medical staff?
 
Nah, it's the response where he concedes there's no point in showing that the ABs are vicious cheats.
 
do people in here seriously think 2 samoans would get upset and do that to BOD over how he reacted to a Maori Haka??

what BOD was instructed to do was actually fine but i suspect BOD got dropped on his head beacause hes a good footballer and they wanted to send a message early on.

i dont think they meant to do that to BOD but im sure they wanted to send a message.
 
Also the All Blacks are not the only ones to do the haka, the Fiji's and Samoans do their own haka as well, no-one seams to talk about that though.[/b]

Tonga has a haka too. You even see it in the US and Hawaii, performed by their football teams. The Americans actually (but not exactly the same) do the All Black's Kapa O Pango (2nd haka).
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Ooooo Yeh I seen that late last year in American Football. I personally think its great. :)
 
Personally I think the yanks using the haka is kind of like them going nuts over St Patricks day and St Andrews day. They're just gimmicks, they don't actually feel any sort of connection with whereever they got the haka from, they're just using it as something to get more fans and thus business and in turn $$$.

Not saying the Haka as performed by the All Blacks or Tonga is a gimmick, but beware the dangers of selling out your culture and way of life to American businessmen i.e. the Glazer brothers.
 
my god!

we watch/ stand for/ accept the challenge of the haka, because it is right! because we are all players of the greatest game of all! because we are gentlemen!

the original question is so cyincal i wont even answer it.

the haka is indellibly marked on rugby as a sport. the haka is not a dance performed by 22 blokes in black jumpers. it is an ancient challenge laid down by generations of footballers and (this is the point) ACCEPTED by exactly as many again. the haka is not there to be respected, observed or tollerated by opposition teams. it is as the tango: it requires two. one to challenge, one to accept.

it is a unique beautiful thing. as a apectator, you get to actually see the whole story. i dont want to read george gregan or whoever gobshite away in the tabloids for a week before a test about any nz shortcomings. i want to see him stand there, look them straight in the eye, pick up the gauntlet and take it to them! i want to see the richard cockerills and the (swicthing codes for just a second) the willy masons.

what i dont want to see is the welsh management deny the players (of both teams), the crowd and the millions watching on tele the chance to see something that is almost unique in our sport.

what are we without tradition, heritage, and common decency.

soccer. thats what.
 
Davidson.

Read the thread, we're not talking about banning the haka, we're talking about what if a side decided to kick off during the haka.
 
i know exactly what the original question was, read my reply,

"the original question is so cyincal i wont even answer it."

just a bit of a laugh mate, cheer up.
 
So, if you knew and understood the original question, why babble on about something quite irrelevant to the dicussion?
Going back through the pages one can read what you said umpteen times, but by different people in slightly different ways...
 
my two cents son. i read the entire thread and decided people hadnt said exactly what i thought. on top of that, much of what had been said seemed fairly harsh to some members (almost all of this being off-topic babble). with reference to that (and not the original question) i thought i might try and lighten the mood and point out that the haka is as much a part of world rugby as it is of new zealand rugby.

the original point being largely fatuous, a simple reply to a non-question (not a hypothetical one) would be, in my opinion far more pointless.

i feel sorry if you have to trudge through my babble and of course hope you dont have to resort to a weilding your mighty neg rep!
 
No, people aren't going to say "exactly" what you just said.
My only point is, is that it's all in the same ball park, and to be frank it's getting tedious.

Please don't patronise me ("son") next time. I had a perfectly reasonable question, and i don't see the point of such a belittling response as the one you gave me.
If you believe topics to be fatuous as you claim, then for your own sake, don't bother posting there. And yes, it is hypothetical.
 
i cannot possibly see what you took offense to in my initial post. it was harmless banter regarding a rhetorical question. what would you like us to say. "golly squire, we'd be well cheesed off if you messed with our haka!" youre officious attitude to a forum is remarkable (something along the lines of "next person who deviates from my pointless question gets a neg rep!" blinder mate. i nearly peed myself). it was originally you who thought my remarks out of place. if you would like evryone to share your viewpoint and tell you its special, why not explain pre match etiquette and your prefered stance on the matter to a child of four. im sure they will agree.

dont bother replying, im not gonna see it.
 
i cannot possibly see what you took offense to in my initial post. it was harmless banter regarding a rhetorical question. what would you like us to say. "golly squire, we'd be well cheesed off if you messed with our haka!" youre officious attitude to a forum is remarkable (something along the lines of "next person who deviates from my pointless question gets a neg rep!" blinder mate. i nearly peed myself). it was originally you who thought my remarks out of place. if you would like evryone to share your viewpoint and tell you its special, why not explain pre match etiquette and your prefered stance on the matter to a child of four. im sure they will agree.

dont bother replying, im not gonna see it.
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Someone pass this guy a D.B... :cheers:

I believe you shot that man in the foot, and deservedly so... This topic is about what he wants answered, the way he wants it answered, If you dear criticize his action's you will be labeled as a banter like all the rest of them f#%kn Kiwi's...Tell him to lighten up cause thats what a forum is for
 
i decided to come back and apologise for being a bit self righteous, tail between legs.

i stand by what i said, it was just a bit of fun and my take on the broader situation and what i feel has been a cantentious issue recently, but i dont mean to be rude, i could see you were getting ****** of with waffly answers like mine.

no hard feelings

/fd
 

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