Okay probably kinda needed its getting harder to talk about the show without giving stuff away and its stuff that isn't going to occur for a few seasons. I'm declaring open season for this thread if it happened in the books you can discuss it.
As mentioned in the previous thread Wheel of Time is pretty seminal work in fantasy storytelling and was pretty much for a time people's go to series for something to read once you've read Lord of the Rings. This particularly useful in context of 2001 where a certain film had come out and people were hunting for what else to read. A Song of Fire and Ice was released in terms of the best bits was less popular in this country. Other options were Dragonlance which had 15billions novels which is pre wikipedia days was a problem and Dragonriders of Pern which equally had a where to start issue
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You could read Shannara but it was rubbish (barely got through half of book one).
Wheel of Time on the other hand had some sexy books covers but as it was one continuous story knowing where to start wasn't an issue.
This is also why I read it I was in college taking a 50 min bus journey from home and back between Yeovil and Street. Which is now nearly 20 years ago which is why my memory sucks on the exact details of the novels and they blur, I read the first 10 books in just over a year as I finished book 9 shortly before or after publication of book 10. I may have read Knife of Dreams but I've never read the Brandon Sanderson ones.
The problem of course was the infamous 9th book where only half character turn up and covers the period of 2 days (I think) the 10th didn't help much.
Basically something went wrong after the 7th book (this glancing at wikipedia pages). So Rand al'Thor is the Dragon Reborn (first major spoiler) and at this point he's essentially consolidated power to have some kind of army and won his first major battle. At his point it should essentially be training for the final battle and the end of the story. Establishing his power base is pretty much the plot of books 4-7 and where the story is best. I think books 4-6 are my favourites especially book 5 because thats the **** goes down (have they cast Lanfear yet?) and pretty much what the last episode was doing some ground work for. Which Moiraines death, why Lan gets bonded to a different Aes Saidai other than Nynaeve (by the way they get together they're my favourite characters).
But yeah after book 7 Jordan sends Mat TO A DIFFRENT CONTINENT and its a mess it introduces a whole a bunch of new and bloody interesting characters. But Mat is also crucial and must be there for the end of the story due to plot reasons as he has to sound the Horn of Valere. Basically getting Mat back and therefore slowing the rest of plot down just slowed everything down. And clearly due to his own ill health and death but also the fact books stopped coming out as quickly Jordon really struggled to get the story back under control so he could finish it.
Should say whilst I've not finished it from what I heared using extensive notes (and being annoited) Sanderson the books do finish very satisfying.
I can understand what they are doing with Perrin due to the animal inside and giving him conflict he was always a bit too much of a nothing character.
As to what @Which Tyler said in the last about season to book I can see with a slightly longer book them consolidating a fair bit books 2-3 which mainly tread the same ground as each other. The Dragon Reborn actually being the interesting one but The Great Hunt covering some needed plot points. I do think books 4-7 will be their own seasons. What I do expect is books 8-14 being considerably cut down Mat doesn't go off, the taint gets cleansed at the end of the following season instead of waiting 2 books and they pretty much go into the Last Battle from there. So take this season into account 8 seasons total? (1=1, 2=2/3, 3=4, 4=6, 5=6, 6=7, 7=8/9/10, 8 = 11/12/13/14).
As mentioned in the previous thread Wheel of Time is pretty seminal work in fantasy storytelling and was pretty much for a time people's go to series for something to read once you've read Lord of the Rings. This particularly useful in context of 2001 where a certain film had come out and people were hunting for what else to read. A Song of Fire and Ice was released in terms of the best bits was less popular in this country. Other options were Dragonlance which had 15billions novels which is pre wikipedia days was a problem and Dragonriders of Pern which equally had a where to start issue
Dragonriders of Pern - Wikipedia
List of Dragonlance novels - Wikipedia
You could read Shannara but it was rubbish (barely got through half of book one).
Wheel of Time on the other hand had some sexy books covers but as it was one continuous story knowing where to start wasn't an issue.
This is also why I read it I was in college taking a 50 min bus journey from home and back between Yeovil and Street. Which is now nearly 20 years ago which is why my memory sucks on the exact details of the novels and they blur, I read the first 10 books in just over a year as I finished book 9 shortly before or after publication of book 10. I may have read Knife of Dreams but I've never read the Brandon Sanderson ones.
The problem of course was the infamous 9th book where only half character turn up and covers the period of 2 days (I think) the 10th didn't help much.
Basically something went wrong after the 7th book (this glancing at wikipedia pages). So Rand al'Thor is the Dragon Reborn (first major spoiler) and at this point he's essentially consolidated power to have some kind of army and won his first major battle. At his point it should essentially be training for the final battle and the end of the story. Establishing his power base is pretty much the plot of books 4-7 and where the story is best. I think books 4-6 are my favourites especially book 5 because thats the **** goes down (have they cast Lanfear yet?) and pretty much what the last episode was doing some ground work for. Which Moiraines death, why Lan gets bonded to a different Aes Saidai other than Nynaeve (by the way they get together they're my favourite characters).
But yeah after book 7 Jordan sends Mat TO A DIFFRENT CONTINENT and its a mess it introduces a whole a bunch of new and bloody interesting characters. But Mat is also crucial and must be there for the end of the story due to plot reasons as he has to sound the Horn of Valere. Basically getting Mat back and therefore slowing the rest of plot down just slowed everything down. And clearly due to his own ill health and death but also the fact books stopped coming out as quickly Jordon really struggled to get the story back under control so he could finish it.
Should say whilst I've not finished it from what I heared using extensive notes (and being annoited) Sanderson the books do finish very satisfying.
I can understand what they are doing with Perrin due to the animal inside and giving him conflict he was always a bit too much of a nothing character.
As to what @Which Tyler said in the last about season to book I can see with a slightly longer book them consolidating a fair bit books 2-3 which mainly tread the same ground as each other. The Dragon Reborn actually being the interesting one but The Great Hunt covering some needed plot points. I do think books 4-7 will be their own seasons. What I do expect is books 8-14 being considerably cut down Mat doesn't go off, the taint gets cleansed at the end of the following season instead of waiting 2 books and they pretty much go into the Last Battle from there. So take this season into account 8 seasons total? (1=1, 2=2/3, 3=4, 4=6, 5=6, 6=7, 7=8/9/10, 8 = 11/12/13/14).