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[2021 Rugby Championship] Round 3 Australia v South Africa (12/9/2021)

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New Zealanders will say they were the top dog and South Africans will claim dominance up till the isolation years.
even though we werent allowed our brownies?!? that whole period should remarked with an asterix as they were not true full NZ sides. it was pretty disgusting our govt curtailing to SA politics and not allowing our maoris and PI's to play

that entire period between boks and ABs should be called the white period
 
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finally got around to watching the game last night. wow Boks were weak. hits were soft . physicality non existent. what's happened to pollard? all the creattivity has been coached out of him. what a waste of a great talented 1st 5
why do Boks bother selecting backs? should just put in another forward pack
 
still whinging about the officiating

“It was a game of narrow margins – Wallaby captain Michael Hooper should probably have been penalised with just over a minute to go, those dominant Bok scrums should probably have netted penalties, and the Boks could have, and maybe even should have won,” he wrote. Keohane
In a nation of 60 odd million, you are zeroing in one writer. It's like when people watch one movie on America and then try to act like they know what they're talking about.
 
I'm guessing you missed the entirety of the 2011 Super Rugby.

Great day to be a Quade and Wallaby fan.
Well, you must have missed all the tests that Kiwi boy Quade played against the ABs, because heaps of times against us he made plenty of really silly errors when the pressure was applied... great to see that he's put a lot of hard yakka in to massively improve the mental toughness/composure part of his game.
 
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That is a damning stat indeed. I am all for keeping to our "rugby DNA". I just think Nienaber needs to remember we have a proud history of running the ball as well. Minimalism is all well and fine but any designer will tell you only so if it retains function. We are at a point where we are losing function. Lions tour was fine. We hadn't played any rugby as a team for 2 years and its sensible; keeping it simple. BUT I think the expectation was that it would develop.
 
Boks are playing far too much predictable 10-man rugby stuff - they've got some top backs with plenty of pace, need to get them involved in the game as much as possible.
Reckon they need a running 1st-five to keep the defence in two minds, he either runs at the line looking to offload, spreads the ball wide quickly or kicks if it's the best option... just basically kicking most of the time makes it too easily for sides to read & defend against.
 
Yet his form is currently not at the best or even near. Best thing to help push a player to perform beter is competition for places thus I am saying bring in goosen that will push him for the starting spot. Elton Jantjies can't and neither will Morne Steyn. Willemse don't even know what he is anymore. I would also consider him a better option for #12. Our depth at #10 is really thin.
Please dont start blaming players after one game, can you not grasp the bigger picture?
 
finally got around to watching the game last night. wow Boks were weak. hits were soft . physicality non existent. what's happened to pollard? all the creattivity has been coached out of him. what a waste of a great talented 1st 5
why do Boks bother selecting backs? should just put in another forward pack
Love it when people go overboard like this. Provides great entertainment when reading these threads years later
 
I thought it was a good game.South Africa had a off day with the boot and disicpline plus missed kolbes x factor and the kicking game didnt work out for them.Aussie backs (Cooper,Kerevei,Kellaway,Ikitau) played well and the win made the RC interesting.Im one of the rare Nzers who like the way quade plays and with his last performance hope Aussie finally give him citizenship.
 
Is Pollard on form ? No. Guess I am not allow to say that.
He was not on form. But he has got enough class to overcome. Whoever you want to bring in will also lose form at some point. We need to balance picking form players against picking young players and building experience with them. Pollard is a project player, we can't go and throw away years of Build up because he is off form. We have committed and need to see this through. He needs to be played through some patches of bad form to become a better player come next world cup. And make no mistake. If he is available he will be picked.

His kicking was **** and part of the reason why we lost the game, but i have seen too many fans calling for the axe after this first loss. We gain more value by sticking with these players .
 
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Real shame that Janse Van Rensburg and Snyman are not available, both are better than Orie.
 
He was not on form. But he has got enough class to overcome. Whoever you want to bring in will also lose form at some point. We need to balance picking form players against picking young players and building experience with them. Pollard is a project player, we can't go and throw away years of Build up because he is off form. We have committed and need to see this through. He needs to be played through some patches of bad form to become a better player come next world cup. And make no mistake. If he is available he will be picked.

His kicking was **** and part of the reason why we lost the game, but i have seen too many fans calling for the axe after this first loss. We gain more value by sticking with these players .
I never said throw him away I said that he is off form and that someone like Goosen will add healthy competition as Jantjies is no threat to his starting spot.
 
Did our maul not score a hattrick?
Brumbies of international rugby.

God mauls are shite. Randomly allowed to obstruct the ball carrier and even if a defender miraculously gets to the ball carrier legally he can't tackle him.

Its like they thought '**** it, let's just flip rugby on its head for this one part of the game'
 
Brumbies of international rugby.

God mauls are shite. Randomly allowed to obstruct the ball carrier and even if a defender miraculously gets to the ball carrier legally he can't tackle him.

Its like they thought '**** it, let's just flip rugby on its head for this one part of the game'
I get how people don't like it. Can't say I myself am the biggest fan of the maul. I suppose it can be seen as something of a spontaneous ad-hoc scrum but, yeah, for all the complaints about Rugby Union I don't agree with I wouldn't be sad to see mauls go.
 
Brumbies of international rugby.

God mauls are shite. Randomly allowed to obstruct the ball carrier and even if a defender miraculously gets to the ball carrier legally he can't tackle him.

Its like they thought '**** it, let's just flip rugby on its head for this one part of the game'
Thats also a Scrum. Mauls arent the only legal obstruction. Part of what makes union so much more complex and more interesting than league.

Mauls is a complex art. Its shite when used against you and you dont know how to stop it, so i have empathy for you Derpus. I have also been distraught when my provincial team was destroyed by a better teams maul.
 
I get how people don't like it. Can't say I myself am the biggest fan of the maul. I suppose it can be seen as something of a spontaneous ad-hoc scrum but, yeah, for all the complaints about Rugby Union I don't agree with I wouldn't be sad to see mauls go.
I think the difference is technically no one is in possession for a scrum. A maul isn't a competition for possesion - which is the most fundamental aspect of rugby. Constant competition for the ball.
 
I wonder if the kick taking time limit will be policed this time around. As well as Quade kicked, he took forever to kick, and Im pretty sure that there is a time limit for each kick. It slowed the game down so annoyingly.
 
I think the difference is technically no one is in possession for a scrum. A maul isn't a competition for possesion - which is the most fundamental aspect of rugby. Constant competition for the ball.
A maul cannot be executed unless a lineout is won, correct? A lineout is a competition for possession. Australia did a poor job disrupting the lineout basically the entire game. Would you like to remove lineouts as well?
 
A maul cannot be executed unless a lineout is won, correct? A lineout is a competition for possession. Australia did a poor job disrupting the lineout basically the entire game. Would you like to remove lineouts as well?
Yes a lineout is a competition for the ball. We are talking about the maul that follows the lineout.

Good contribution buddy.
 

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