I'd check back, I disliked Corbyn and didn't trust him on international affairs in the slightest (Brexit being included in that). It was by far his worst trait, he got a pass on being vastly better domestically (IMO) than any Tory would ever be.
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I like that the right still run with Corbyn being a Russian asset despite the Tory's having huge amounts of money funnelled into them by Russians
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Completely normal behaviour, I'm sure
Realistically it should have been Ed Milliband, anyway - that bacon sandwich photo was the beginning of the end for this country
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Realistically it should have been Ed Milliband, anyway - that bacon sandwich photo was the beginning of the end for this country
Oh the Russian thing is nonsense but you only have to look Stop the War coalition and his history with this kind of thing and position to know he'd of done **** all as well. Just he wouldn't of been paid to do it.
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Jesus
So, Putin announced a "special operation" and surgical strikes to military objects near: Kharkov, Kramatorsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol.
Also (translated quote, so mistakes are possible):
My Dad told me EXACTLY the same a week ago,when I was asking him about tanks etc invasion/noninvasion, he told me "no,no tanks, this will be a Syrian scenario: surgical strikes to Ukrainian military objects" and I thought he just didn't understand anything and what was he talking about...damn, he was right maybe I have to ask him more.
Trying to call my relatives who live in Western Ukraine ..my grandmother, my 3 aunts, their families, and my uncle live in Ternopol and Lvov. Will write if there are some news
So, Putin announced a "special operation" and surgical strikes to military objects near: Kharkov, Kramatorsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol.
Also (translated quote, so mistakes are possible):
My Dad told me EXACTLY the same a week ago,when I was asking him about tanks etc invasion/noninvasion, he told me "no,no tanks, this will be a Syrian scenario: surgical strikes to Ukrainian military objects" and I thought he just didn't understand anything and what was he talking about...damn, he was right
maybe I have to ask him more.Trying to call my relatives who live in Western Ukraine ..my grandmother, my 3 aunts, their families, and my uncle live in Ternopol and Lvov. Will write if there are some news
I like that the right still run with Corbyn being a Russian asset despite the Tory's having huge amounts of money funnelled into them by Russians
Completely normal behaviour, I'm sureMorning after: Boris Johnson recovers from Lebedev’s exotic Italian party
Exclusive: New prime minister refuses to say if he abandoned security for 2018 night in billionaire’s castle
Realistically it should have been Ed Milliband, anyway - that bacon sandwich photo was the beginning of the end for this country
IDK I feel that David was the more electable of the two tbh always felt that was the beginning
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Jesus
So, Putin announced a "special operation" and surgical strikes to military objects near: Kharkov, Kramatorsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol.
Also (translated quote, so mistakes are possible):
My Dad told me EXACTLY the same a week ago,when I was asking him about tanks etc invasion/noninvasion, he told me "no,no tanks, this will be a Syrian scenario: surgical strikes to Ukrainian military objects" and I thought he just didn't understand anything and what was he talking about...damn, he was right
Trying to call my relatives who live in Western Ukraine ..my grandmother, my 3 aunts, their families, and my uncle live in Ternopol and Lvov. Will write if there are some news
I hope your family stay safe.
Oh aye, he would've been my choice between the two as well, but it was Ed that was up vs Cameron ultimately
Ed went for the job like 8-10 too early he's grown in statue a lot in the wilderness year. The sandwich goes on but in reality it made little difference he never aired any particular sense of authority or vision. Cameron was also considered a likeable leader at that stage and the cuts weren't being felt by most, his stock majorly decreased with Brexit but most leaders would struggle against first term party in governement unless they completely ****** it.
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So Ukraine is being bombed and you're trying to score cheap political points.
I don't actually disagree, Corbyn probably would have been worse on this, but is now really the time to bring it up? It's honestly pathetic.
One thing that has amazed me is how slow europe on the whole has been to gain dependency from the likes of Russia and Middle East.
Johnson addressing the nation this morning followed by MP's.
Hopefully he'll do more than spit into the ocean.
Hopefully he'll do more than spit into the ocean.
I mean TBF people try and score cheap political points on anything.
And tbh how isn’t it the time? It’s prob one of the biggest political problems of this era.
How could Corbyn have done worse, considering BoJo has done literally nothing? (sanctioned a couple of banks that don't operate in the UK and a couple of individuals that are already under sanctions from the US)
Make it sound like he'd be on the front lines with an AK screaming for the return of the USSR
Make it sound like he'd be on the front lines with an AK screaming for the return of the USSR
Putin threatening nuclear strikes?
And the culture war begins again...
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At least we've got a united front at the mo in reg to NATO and sanctions.
Corbyn et Al have characterised NATO as the aggressor in all of this.
It's not "cheap political points" when the fool is still spouting his nonsense in the Commons - it's a very real thing
Corbyn et Al have characterised NATO as the aggressor in all of this.
It's not "cheap political points" when the fool is still spouting his nonsense in the Commons - it's a very real thing
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Regardless he has no impact, Johnson does and Johnson's response has been pitiful.
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I agree on the surface as to our current sanctions package - worth noting tho that the various stages were discussed with allies so I'm holding out hope there is a larger, coordinated plan between allies here.
We shall see today I imagine
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Sad thing is China has been conspicuously silent on this. Putin would never try this unless he has their implicit backing and economically speaking with finance controls.
The erosion of The West’s power - specifically the divisions/weakening of the USA, Brexit and Merkel leaving office. Putin has just been biding his time for the right moment IMO.
The erosion of The West’s power - specifically the divisions/weakening of the USA, Brexit and Merkel leaving office. Putin has just been biding his time for the right moment IMO.
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We shall see but our first set of sanctions was weak compared to others. Maybe the west will finally react and stop pussy footing around but I don't hold out hope. Years of selfishness have made us unwilling to take the necessary actions if it means we also must face some hardship as a result.
Putin will get his Sudetenland.
You'd have thought they'd be pretty anti-what-Russia-is-doing considering they have multiple territories that would want to follow the Ukrainian separatist regions and break away (Tibet, Taiwan etc.)
It did look, a few days ago, that they were telling Russia to chill out but then news today is saying that they're going to help Russia manage against western sanctions (though that could just be because they can see monetary gain from that)
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