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[dirty harry]

Reports that Trump, from several news outlets in the USA, is considering joining Israel with strikes on Iran

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Have you seen the comments from Isreali leaders? Thursday will see an operation that makes Grim Beeper look tame?!?!! Trump telling people to evacuate Terhan!!!

 

[Welsh Exile]

Just to state, when I regard voter fraud, I don't differentiate suppression in that, electoral fraud is probably a better phrase.

Who's making the claim that voter fraud poses significant threats, my claim is that opinions on it are valid, and if it poses no threat, why is it always such a major issue from both parties in every election cycle?

I would caveat the non threat, that mail in voting during covid presented an escalated threat in that context.

Like I said, i havnt come across an argument against voter ID that isn't racist, why not ensure everything is above board to every degree, just in case? The idea its suppression is merely political theatre IMO.

I'd agree the Jan 6th event was stupid, but I disagree it was the only credible threat to democracy, I see it more as reactionary to the BLM protests that spent a summer coercing Democrats, burning cities and threatening to over turn social fabric (Not that im completely damning of that, there were reasons for BLM also).

I'd argue that neither BLM or Jan 6th were actual threats, and that the biggest threat the west has ever seen isn't just modern day USA, but modern day west countries.

A study written a few years ago identified 4 threats to democracy, seen over the centuries, of recurring issues and the fragility of US democracy. But only in modern day has all 4 of these threats coincided...

Economic disparity
Polarisation
Presidential executive power
Conflict of political boundaries

Look at any western country and tell me which aren't seeing all 4 of these issues currently?

Economically the majority of the world is reeling from COVID, social media and political agendas have polarised people like never before, entrenched views and blaming the others, political boundaries have been blurred, parties courting votes based on race, or religion, immigration and far right used as scapegoats whenever possible, and what world leader isn't being accused by their opposition of over reach?

We desperately need some adults in the room, to stop fear mongering, stop benefiting from a scared population, and puting rational talking points forward, to an educated and informed population...

We are ******!

I can only operate on a 2 (3 maximum) paragraph limit now so I’m going to ignore most of this post (agree with most of your last 2 paragraphs for what it’s worth)

 

[AlRums]

So the first quote proves my point. She's saying there were a bunch of things involved. She's also, imo, talking about the moral legitimacy of Trumps presidency as the questions she was asked was doesn't it kill you to hear the lock her up chants" and she said no it's doesn't kill me because he knows he's illegitimate president and then lists off all the lies he told. That is totally different to saying an election was rigged. In fact it's the opposite of that.

This simplified a lot (and to some extent exonerates Clinton), the Mueller report. Note Barr had already decided he wouldn't prosecute strumpet BEFORE the report was finished, and strumpet used executive privilege to stop Congress reading parts of the report.

Mueller report - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Let's not forget Clinton got 3 million more votes than strumpet so it's not unreasonable to suspicious. Also there were more faithless state electors in the election than in history.

Btw list of lawsuits prior to the election which surprise surprise were mostly red states trying to restrict voting.

2016 Election Lawsuit Tracker: The New Election Laws and the Suits Challenging Them

Courts are scrambling to rule on state election laws in time for the elections being held later this year. We’re keeping track of their decisions.

www.propublica.org

 

[Seeker]

Just to state, when I regard voter fraud, I don't differentiate suppression in that, electoral fraud is probably a better phrase.

Who's making the claim that voter fraud poses significant threats, my claim is that opinions on it are valid, and if it poses no threat, why is it always such a major issue from both parties in every election cycle?

I would caveat the non threat, that mail in voting during covid presented an escalated threat in that context.

Like I said, i havnt come across an argument against voter ID that isn't racist, why not ensure everything is above board to every degree, just in case? The idea its suppression is merely political theatre IMO.

I'd agree the Jan 6th event was stupid, but I disagree it was the only credible threat to democracy, I see it more as reactionary to the BLM protests that spent a summer coercing Democrats, burning cities and threatening to over turn social fabric (Not that im completely damning of that, there were reasons for BLM also).

I'd argue that neither BLM or Jan 6th were actual threats, and that the biggest threat the west has ever seen isn't just modern day USA, but modern day west countries.

A study written a few years ago identified 4 threats to democracy, seen over the centuries, of recurring issues and the fragility of US democracy. But only in modern day has all 4 of these threats coincided...

Economic disparity
Polarisation
Presidential executive power
Conflict of political boundaries

Look at any western country and tell me which aren't seeing all 4 of these issues currently?

Economically the majority of the world is reeling from COVID, social media and political agendas have polarised people like never before, entrenched views and blaming the others, political boundaries have been blurred, parties courting votes based on race, or religion, immigration and far right used as scapegoats whenever possible, and what world leader isn't being accused by their opposition of over reach?

We desperately need some adults in the room, to stop fear mongering, stop benefiting from a scared population, and puting rational talking points forward, to an educated and informed population...

We are ******!

You're so insecure that you set yourself up to be defeated on this board over and over and over again. You're just like Trump, you'll say the most ridiculous things just so you can get the attention you crave. It's really sad. I won't be replying to you anymore after this. I don't want to keep feeding your insecurity monster.

 

[AlRums]

You're so insecure that you set yourself up to be defeated on this board over and over and over again. You're just like Trump, you'll say the most ridiculous things just so you can get the attention you crave. It's really sad. I won't be replying to you anymore after this. I don't want to keep feeding your insecurity monster.

Bravo, well said.

 

[AlRums]

VA hospitals remove politics and marital status from guidelines protecting patients from discrimination

Department of Veterans Affairs says the changes come in response to a Trump executive order ‘defending women’

www.theguardian.com

 

[TommiG88]

You're so insecure that you set yourself up to be defeated on this board over and over and over again. You're just like Trump, you'll say the most ridiculous things just so you can get the attention you crave. It's really sad. I won't be replying to you anymore after this. I don't want to keep feeding your insecurity monster.

 

[AlRums]

Confirming that trump doesn't know a trade deal with the UK is not a trade deal with the EU

 

[AlRums]

 

[dirty harry]

You're so insecure that you set yourself up to be defeated on this board over and over and over again. You're just like Trump, you'll say the most ridiculous things just so you can get the attention you crave. It's really sad. I won't be replying to you anymore after this. I don't want to keep feeding your insecurity monster.

This is not an airport, no need to anounce your departure hahaha

I will miss you well researched, articulate, reasoned and well presented arguments though, take care of yourself bud.

 

[dirty harry]

VA hospitals remove politics and marital status from guidelines protecting patients from discrimination

Department of Veterans Affairs says the changes come in response to a Trump executive order ‘defending women’

www.theguardian.com

The VA also responded on X, writing, “This story is disinformation. All eligible Veterans will always be welcome at VA and will always receive the benefits and services they’ve earned under the law.”

Kyleanne Hunter, CEO of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America:
“The VA employees that we have talked to and connected with are personally very, very committed to continue to serve all veterans and are concerned that the way in which this is being discussed will continue to destroy morale among VA employees,” Hunter said.

But White House deputy press secretary Anna Kelly adamantly denied The Guardian’s reporting. Writing on social platform X, Kelly addressed the article’s writer, Aaron Glantz, saying, “Aaron, this is a totally FALSE story that The Guardian should retract immediately. Fearmongering with our Veterans to try to score clicks for your failing ‘news outlet’ is pathetic and shameful.”

the VA press secretary, Peter Kasperowicz, said “all eligible veterans will always be welcome at VA and will always receive the benefits and services they’ve earned under the law”

My favourite part, was the idea legislation brought in January, is being blamed for 140 VA hospitals changing their own By laws, in which there is no information of who has done what.

 

[AlRums]

The VA also responded on X, writing, "This story is disinformation. All eligible Veterans will always be welcome at VA and will always receive the benefits and services they've earned under the law."

Kyleanne Hunter, CEO of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America:
"The VA employees that we have talked to and connected with are personally very, very committed to continue to serve all veterans and are concerned that the way in which this is being discussed will continue to destroy morale among VA employees," Hunter said.

But White House deputy press secretary Anna Kelly adamantly denied The Guardian's reporting. Writing on social platform X, Kelly addressed the article's writer, Aaron Glantz, saying, "Aaron, this is a totally FALSE story that The Guardian should retract immediately. Fearmongering with our Veterans to try to score clicks for your failing 'news outlet' is pathetic and shameful."

the VA press secretary, Peter Kasperowicz, said "all eligible veterans will always be welcome at VA and will always receive the benefits and services they've earned under the law"

My favourite part, was the idea legislation brought in January, is being blamed for 140 VA hospitals changing their own By laws, in which there is no information of who has done what.

Demonstrating yet again you don't read. The article quite plainly and truthfully says that the VA CAN refuse certain people NOT that they MUST refuse them.

Kelly and others ignore that part and don't deny that these changes have been made.

Again read it properly without coming out with your usual bile.

 

[AlRums]

Demonstrating yet again you don't read. The article quite plainly and truthfully says that the VA CAN refuse certain people NOT that they MUST refuse them.

Kelly and others ignore that part and don't deny that these changes have been made.

Again read it properly without coming out with your usual bile.

Just to add to this these are the 2023 VA bylaws

https://web.archive.org/web/20230904214856if_/https://www.va.gov/files/2023-05/Medical_Bylaws_March_2023_508.pdf

And the 2025 bylaws

https://www.va.gov/files/2025-04/MEDICAL%20BYLAWS_April%202025%20-%20Final.pdf

Under article III, sections 3 and 3.0.3 part 1. It says exactly what the Guardian reported.

 

[AlRums]

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[General Melchett]

I'm just thankful that TACO is teetotal because his decision making ability can't be impaired at such a crucial time.

If Ayatollah offers him his private jet and prime land to build Trump towers in Tehran then it truly is game on.

 

[AlRums]

I'm just thankful that TACO is teetotal because his decision making can't be impaired at such a crucial time.

If Ayatollah offers him his private jet and prime land to build Trump towers in Tehran then it truly is game on.

Problem is, how can you rely on this

Iran and Israel launch more attacks as Trump weighs US involvement

Iran and Israel continue strikes on Wednesday night, after Donald Trump says the US "may" join the Israeli attacks.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[McTallshort]

How will MAGA react to this? Hasn't Tucker Calson already kicked back on this?

 

[General Melchett]

There's a big split emerging with TACO stuck in the middle. On one side he has Bibi and the Republican hawks like Graham and Cruz egging him on to strike Iran and then you have MAGA, Carlson and even MTG telling him to stay out of it. This is when a President earns his corn.

 

[AlRums]

There's a big split emerging with TACO stuck in the middle. On one side he has Bibi and the Republican hawks like Graham and Cruz egging him on to strike Iran and then you have MAGA, Carlson and even MTG telling him to stay out of it. This is when a President earns his corn.

Depends on who buys the most of his scammy meme coin.

 

[McTallshort]

There's a big split emerging with TACO stuck in the middle. On one side he has Bibi and the Republican hawks like Graham and Cruz egging him on to strike Iran and then you have MAGA, Carlson and even MTG telling him to stay out of it. This is when a President earns his corn.

I don't see America missing out on this opportunity to bury the Iranian regime. Apparently the population of Iran is unhappy and close to rebellion (stated on here) but I'm no Iran expert so wouldn't know. If they do get involved would that lead to a quickening of the regimes downfall or would it actually unite Iran? Big questions but on previous form any western interference in the middle east normally results in absolutely unplanned and catastrophic consequences.

Would love the Saudis or Jordan to step in and take charge a bit. Jordan is a close ally of Israel and the Saudis seem to have formed a bit of a relationship with Iran although they are religiously opposite.

Also are these strikes by Israel legal?