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Welsh Exile said:

Sure, the man who has for his entire political career (and before more than likely) spent his whole time calling people names (most recently calling a woman piggy and ugly) wasn’t mocking his disability he was just making funny hand gestures and noises like a child would do when making fun of a disabled person. I’ve got 2 brother in laws with cerebral Paulsy and that is 1 million per cent a grown ass man imitating, in a derogatory way obviously, a person with a disability.

What’s more likely, Trump just made a noise and hand gesture that he intended to be funny and mock a disabled reporter he didn’t like or that he was just making a noise and hand gestures he used to mock all reporters? I mean come on, you can’t be serious. He didn’t do the same thing for piggy did he.

Again it’s just something absolutely despicable about the man’s character that you just refuse to acknowledge and say , you know what, this is disgusting and you never see any other president speaking or acting like this but happy for you to show me examples of that or show me the other times he’s made those noises and hand gestures to other reporters without disabilities.

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dirty harry said:

Mate this isnwhy these faux outrage reports are made so regularly, they arent rrying to report the news, they just want to play on emotions and reinforce that your feelings are good and accurate, and literally everything he does is designed evil lol.

If hes made the shaky hands stupid confused voice gesture 5 times previously to kock reporters, and politicians, what makes this 6th time special?

When Trump was blaming China for covid 3 times a week, and was being called racist, then asked by an asian heritaged reporter where it came from and he responds 'ask China' is she valid in freaking out that he said China to her?

If hes constantly called reporters sleezy, terrible, and didnt he call Acosta an ugly person inside and out? Why is it suddenly so outrageous he said similar to a woman?

My point is, im viewing and critiqing his action through the lens of strategy, instead of emotion. Journalists dont believe in the outrage they cause, theyre in it for clicks and views, the second the moment is over they move on to the next... the only people who believe and buy into it are the great duped.

Trump is a scumbag, has always been, reputation as an unscrupulous businessman, my issue isnt criticising Trump, its playing into the bullshit, and picking a team! Some day your going to look back on this hysteria and laugh that you cant believe you were part of it, and Trump will nestle into the long line of scumbags who make it to office nicely...

There is a lot to read and watch regarding public identity theories, some very interesting, and it explains a lot of actions of a lot of presidents. Once you understand why they act the way they do, the rest becomes background noise

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Welsh Exile said:

Can you show me the other 5 times he did that please?

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dirty harry said:

At the risk of being humiliated, ive found a quick compilation. Took me about 3 minutes.

The Ted Cruz mocking in full is pretty damning lol.

So whats more beleivable, that Trump uses the same hand gestures and voice when hes mocking people in general, or that the popular screen grab that went viral in the media, was specifically designed to inflame and outrage?

As i said, Trumps a scumbag, but thw criticism against him just isnt honest, if it was we wouldnt have had a Trump presidency!

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Welsh Exile said:

You think these are the same. Really?

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dirty harry said:

Yes, wiggling his hands, doing the high pitched voice for Ted Cruz, and a number of others is the same as him doingbit to a reporter lol.

CRiticise him for being unpresidential, uncouth, repulsive even, but to pretend he mocks disabled people, asian women, or women in general goes a step too far, becuase its not honest.

Why do you think despite him mocking disabled people, asian people, being mysoginistic talking about sexual assault etc his popularity has grown year on year?

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Welsh Exile said:

I can’t decide if you’re trolling me or if you actually believe this.

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dirty harry said:

IM confused, you know me a little bit, you get my stance, or you should ive simplified it enough...

Are you saying Trump hasnt become more popular since 2016?

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Welsh Exile said:

I’m just staggered you see the same clips as me and think they’re all the same when clearly they are different, to my mind at least and I’d imagine most rational people.

Maybe he is more popular. His time will come to an end in a few years though (in theory)

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dirty harry said:

Well we saw the same video of him using the same gestures against all sorts, including Ted Cruz who he sees as an ally. Are you disagreeing he makes the same hand and voice actions?

You say rational people think like you, but thats the minority of Americans, andbi wouldnt call them rational.

I will never understand why people cant just view these incidents rationally and logically, without the emotionally charged faux outrage!

Why, once again, after acknowledging that Trumps popularity has grown over the last decade, do you think that is? Ots amaxing how noone answers this question!

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Welsh Exile said:

There are similarities in that he has used hand gestures to say specifically mock how someone sounds but not to the degree, and specificity, with the precursor comment of “you should see this guy”

It’s not just about “shaky hands” in general, it’s about imitating a very particular physical limitation of a specific reporter he was talking about by name. It was far more detailed, prolonged and, honestly, I can’t take you seriously if you seriously think he wasn’t mocking the guys disability/appearance.

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dirty harry said:

He was talking about by name? Are you sure?

No, i thought not.

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Which Tyler said:

Extra-judiscial murder of random Venezuelans in boats (and war-crime murder of any survivors - if justified as being a "war"), and threatening to literally invade the country, to stop drugs - whilst simultaneously pardoning a convicted drugs trafficker?

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Ragey Erasmus said:

BBC News - Trump says he will pardon ex-Honduras president convicted of drug trafficking

Trump says he will pardon ex-Honduras president convicted of drug trafficking

Juan Orlando Hernández was sentenced in the US to 45 years behind bars for conspiring to smuggle cocaine.

www.bbc.com

Right when he's launching illegal strikes to destroy supposed drug traffickers, and going after the president of Venezuela for being a drug trafficker, Trump is pardoning an actual convicted drug trafficker...

It's just an extension of his pettiness, the conviction happened during the Biden presidency and in a New York court, so for that reason alone Trump wants to abuse the pardon power.

He is a ****. There's no galaxy brained 4d chess, he's a ******* idiot.

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Which Tyler said:

Family of brain-dead woman kept alive to give birth give heartbreaking update

Adriana Smith was kept on life support after medics declared her brain-dead

metro.co.uk

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A baby born to a brain dead mother: this is the horror of abortion bans | Moira Donegan

Adriana Smith was legally dead for months, but kept on life support in Atlanta because she was pregnant

www.theguardian.com