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2016 Olympic Games, Rio

Absolutely, but I think they have fundamentally underestimated the NZ public's desire to do well in the Olympics. Even for their own standards they have set in the past they have been terrible. Think about the side they have had in the Commonwealth Games prior to the last one:

1998 had All Blacks: Jonah Lomu, Christian Cullen, Bruce Reihana, Joeli Vidiri, Rico Gear, Roger Randle, Caleb Ralph, Dallas Seymour (basically the premier of New Zealand rugby outside backs - and Dallas Seymour). The only non All Black was sevens specialist Amasio Valence.

2002 had All Blacks: Mils Muliaina, Rodney So'oialo, Chris Masoe, Bruce Reihana, Anthony Tuitavake, Eric Rush, Roger Randle, Craig Newby - with a few more specialist 7's players such as Karl Ta Nana and Valence thrown back there. Most of the players were also playing Super Rugby.

2006 had All Blacks: Cary Jane, Liam Messam, Tamati Ellison, Sosene Anesi, Tanerau Latimer

2010 had All Blacks: Hosea Gear, Ben Smith, Liam Messam, Zac Guildford

Now in fairness some of the 7s players may go on to have careers as All Blacks (I suspect the Ioane brothers will), but what you can see if the NZRU has severely been cutting off the availability of these players as they have expanded the Super Rugby season and test series. It just makes no sense why a guys who aren't quite in that All Black frame weren't told to have a go at 7s. People argue that 7s is a different game - but obviously with the list I have just shown its not so different that the players didn't return even better 15s players afterwards.

rugby has changed a lot since 1998 though, back then the game was a baby in professional sports terms and 7s was not the commercialized and specialized product it is now.

back then it was just a place to throw youngsters to get experience and now you have squads full of guys who just play sevens year round

also the world cup was just last year so i doubt any country that had a chance at winning there would risk helping their sevens side by getting a head start on moving 15s players over to 7s
 
Those warm up tournaments have done wonders, we look more cohesive than any other side I've watched (bar RSA)
Guess we were right to rest our players during the irb sevens series
 
How were Scottish players good enough to make British team? ;)
 
Absolutely, but I think they have fundamentally underestimated the NZ public's desire to do well in the Olympics. Even for their own standards they have set in the past they have been terrible. Think about the side they have had in the Commonwealth Games prior to the last one:

1998 had All Blacks: Jonah Lomu, Christian Cullen, Bruce Reihana, Joeli Vidiri, Rico Gear, Roger Randle, Caleb Ralph, Dallas Seymour (basically the premier of New Zealand rugby outside backs - and Dallas Seymour). The only non All Black was sevens specialist Amasio Valence.

2002 had All Blacks: Mils Muliaina, Rodney So'oialo, Chris Masoe, Bruce Reihana, Anthony Tuitavake, Eric Rush, Roger Randle, Craig Newby - with a few more specialist 7's players such as Karl Ta Nana and Valence thrown back there. Most of the players were also playing Super Rugby.

2006 had All Blacks: Cary Jane, Liam Messam, Tamati Ellison, Sosene Anesi, Tanerau Latimer

2010 had All Blacks: Hosea Gear, Ben Smith, Liam Messam, Zac Guildford

Now in fairness some of the 7s players may go on to have careers as All Blacks (I suspect the Ioane brothers will), but what you can see if the NZRU has severely been cutting off the availability of these players as they have expanded the Super Rugby season and test series. It just makes no sense why a guys who aren't quite in that All Black frame weren't told to have a go at 7s. People argue that 7s is a different game - but obviously with the list I have just shown its not so different that the players didn't return even better 15s players afterwards.

I'm a bit on the fence on this one. I am quite happy to have our 7s players ply 7s and our XVs to stay in XVs. I think Juan de Jongh is the weakest player in our 7s squad for instance. Obviously there are players in there like Kolbe and Senatla who play for the Stormers but Senatla started out with the 7s and Kolbe is more suited to 7s in any case. Hougaard is the only proper XVs player who looks comfortable there.

I'm sure a lot of the guys have it in them to do well on both stages but I wonder how difficult it must be to drift between the different structures and I am happy that the guys dedicating themselves to 7s in the circuit year round year in year out get the reward of playing for SA on the big stage even if I think guys like Combrinck, Jaco and Jesse Kriel or Faf de Klerk could add value.
 
not a huge 7s fan, but this tournament has actually been a whole lot of fun

what a game
 
Group C looks nasty. NZ aren't dominant but still top shelf, GB looks like a team that have always been together, Japan look like they might be contenders out of nowhere and Kenya can and have beaten anyone on their day.
 
Would LOL if NZ fail to make the next round.

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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Come on kenya
 

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