Discussion in 'All Other Sports' started by TRF_Cymro, Apr 16, 2010.
Eddie Hearn on suicide watch,
Biggest fight in boxing now on it's arse
I like AJ but he/Hearn/Wilder deserved this. Even if AJ wins the (presumably mandatory) rematch that fight has lost a ton of shine due to how **** boxing matchmaking is.
Fatboi Ruiz a legend now, fair play to him.
British Irish Lions
Wow what a shocker. But there is always a caveat in boxing.
This was coming. The Under Armour poster boy with the suspect chin got soundly beaten. A stark reminder that this is a professional sport and not all about maximising millions. Joshua far too greedy looking for opponents who will accept the lowest cut. Even Dillian Whyte said that during negotiations, Joshua wanted it written into the contract that he would still get the lion's share of the split in the rematch in the event of a Whyte win.
Well done to Ruiz. Seems like a really likeable and down to earth bloke.
Callum Smith is the best pound for pound British boxer at the moment.
Anyone can have a bad night at the office, but Joshua’s not been great on a couple of other occasions.
If they ever get it on, I think Fury would frustrate the life out of him and beat him on points and Wilder would just take him out.
World champion after 18 fights. Suppose this was always going to happen.
Wilder, Ortiz, Whyte and Miller must be kicking themselves now.
Well done to Ruiz. Very likable bloke.
Joshua saying in his post fight interview "They don't want to box me so they just throw big shots instead". How arrogant, deluded and disrespectful to Ruiz who beat him fair and square with his hand speed and accuracy.
Fury would give him a proper boxing lesson and there's no way he'd go 12 rounds without getting clubbed by Wilder.
Anyone see Taylor on the undercard? She's the undisputed champ which is an incredible feat but it sounds like the "homeish" crowd influenced the decis!
My kickboxing coach is the biggest Taylor fan this side of Dublin and even he said it was a draw at very very best
Seen it and well a mate who's in to boxing said it was a tight contest but should've went the other way by a point.
But huge credit to both women on superb contest.
On AJ. A really likeable guy but now the fact is he can't be going around demanding x y and z. If he wants to be the best he has to take a cut on his demands and beat the unbeaten guys like Wilder and Fury who both have faced eachother
Ruiz pocketed $3m from last night's fight with AJ raking in at least ten times that. AJ will also get the lion's share in the re match even though Ruiz is the champ. Losing the belts and his undefeated record is a game changer in future negotiations with the likes of Wilder and Fury who should really be the only undefeated one of the three. Wilder is very fortunate to still be undefeated after being out boxed by Fury. The re match is a must win fight for AJ and will hopefully be a great spectacle at Wembley or the Millenium.
Would love to see the rules re. judging change to reduce these contentious decisions. Real time round by round scoring on a big screen would be one improvement as would seeing the judges be subject to independent performance appraisal afterwards with the rogues booted off future fights.
Yeah agree with majority of this
I wrote Ruiz off along with almost everyone else. I saw one of his first PVP card fights against Tor Hamer and though he was a good talent, but didn't think he'd be strong enough to challenge AJ, I thought the height and strength differences would be game over for Ruiz but in the end AJ was just revealed to have a suspect chin and no way of dealing with a pressure fighter who isn't afraid of his power.
Lennox Lewis also had a suspect chin and even getting ko’d by Rachman and McCall avenged both defeats. Lennox of course was a better boxer than AJ. But still AJ needs to avenge this one and next time control the fight better with his left jab as he did v Parker. He rushed it after knocking Ruiz down and wanted to go for the fast finish.
He got away with it against Wlad when he knocked him down first time round and gassed himself and almost got knocked down in the same round but not this time. That right to the side of his head in the 4th round he never really recovered from. Absolutely fair play to Ruiz and he won fair and square but AJ must learn from the defeat and beat him comprehensively in the rematch. It’s good he lost as now we will see what he is really made of.
I think saying he has a bad chin is a bit overplayed, clean shots from a heavyweight will put anyone on the canvas and he made it to his feet even if he did fail the count on the final time.
Definitely needs work on his close defence though, he really left himself open to counters against the shorter fighter
Compared to the all time great heavyweights which AJ aspires to be he has a relatively bad “chin”. Holyfield (some of the clean shots he took from Bowe, Foreman, Tyson still make me shudder), Ali come to mind.
And Even though Fury got knocked down by Wilder several times with clean shots from Wilder he still got back up and boxed on.
Lennox on Twitter saying AJ should sack Rob McCracken because he just wasn’t prepared for what Ruiz threw at him. Pretty much what he did to his trainer when he lost to McCall and turned to the late Emmanuel Stewart.
Lot of talk that AJ went into the fight with a bad concussion after being KOd in sparring during fight week,
His trainers wanted him to pull out but AJ and Hearn went ahead,
Video of AJs Dad booting off at Hearn in the ring after the fight
Is anyone liable for that in boxing, sounds reckless? Presume AJ is self employed.
I heard about this from a few guys in work too... easy to say after the fact though so who knows.
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