Champions Cup Pools

Discussion in 'European Champions & Challenge Cup' started by Tigs Man, Jun 29, 2016.

  1. TRF_Olyy

    TRF_Olyy English Arrogance

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    Sarries and Toulon again, urgh
    At least the Turks are a bit easier than Munster, who we had last time
     
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    Ummmm. Which of the provinces finished lowest? Ulster? :rolleyes:

    Merde! No, 'twas Munner!!!
     
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    Irish provinces are crazy. Munster were worst performing last year. Ulster are a team again they have the players. The key is keeping them fit and getting momentum.

    I do fear for Connacht in that they've lostbfew influential guys but Lam has built an amazing system where no player is bigger than team in terms of every role has a duty and more than 1 player can do that.
     
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    my official predictions for who makes the knockout round (only about 7 months in advance and without complete knowledge of transfers) are:
    Racing 92
    Leicester
    Connacht
    Saracens
    Toulon
    Leinster
    Clermont
    Exeter
     
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    Almost feels weird for Racing not to have Saints in the pool. A tough pool but I think we have the depth and finally the continuity and identity.

    Sure there are a couple of older gents but we have quality young direct replacements even if not as experienced; Carter has Goosen, Roko has Thomas and Szar has Chat. We just need to find our mojo again in the scrum and we should be a good shout to make the playoffs at least.
     
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    if goosen and carter keep kicking as they do from the left and right respectively racing should be a dominant force
     
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    Toomua and JPP should really help our backline.

    Pack will be interesting Ayerza i think getting a whole preseason off, Genge and Logo will add alot of power coming on.

    On paper it our team looks good fully fit

    1) Ayerza
    2) Youngs
    3) Cole
    4) Barrow
    5) Slater
    6) Williams
    7) O'connor
    8) Hamilton
    9) Youngs
    10) Burns
    11) JPP
    12) Toomua
    13) Manu
    14) Betham
    15) Veainu

    16) McGuigan
    17) Genge
    18) Mulipola
    19) Kitchener/Fitzgerald
    20) McCaffrey
    21) Harrison
    22) Williams
    23) Tait/Thompstone
     
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    For Munster if we can keep everyone fit and on form I think we've best back row options in pool.
    Front row we are in trouble. LH the lads are experienced, 2 Scannell is young still and learning other 2 form varies, TH we have decent Pro12 level no more.
    2nd row we need form and lads will be fine. I expect Dave O'Callaghan to play most his rugby here from now on too.
    9. Murray has been poor for us but he knows we need better.
    10. Again if we can keep the upward curve of youngsters going I think we will succeed here.
    Centres. We were forming well toward end of season and Scannell was arguably 1 of best Pro12 guys from Ireland.
    Back 3 we do have options serious options.

    Key for me is though if Rassie and coaches get us playing well and to a plan suited to us it'll be major success I feel. Yes it's tough but we certainly will believe.
     
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    I'm almost the most excited about Nakarawa being picked up. We could use a carrier like him in the back, we have enough workhorses. We were a tad thin at lock and in the centers but I see Anthony Tuitivaki has signed a two year deal. Not sure what sort of form him and Ali Williams are in but old ex-All Blacks have done well for us LOL. The squad is actually very deep if you consider Le Roux can cover lock and Goosen any position in the backline.

    My choice line-up on paper:

    1 Eddy Ben Arous
    2 Dimitri Szarzewski
    3 Ben Tameifuna
    4 Leone Nakarawa
    5 Francois van der Merwe
    6 Bernard le Roux
    7 Wenceslas Lauret
    8 Chris Masoe
    9 Maxime Machenaud
    10 Dan Carter
    11 Juan Imhoff
    12 Henry Chavancy
    13 Joe Rokocoko
    14 Teddy Thomas
    15 Brice Dulin

    16 Camille Chat
    17 Luc Ducalcon
    18 Julien Brugnaut
    19 Manuel Carizza
    20 Yannick Nyanga
    21 James Hart
    22 Johan Goosen
    23 Albert Vulivuli
     
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    The way Tuit finished the season for us he could become a permanent fixture at centre for Racing excellent player and i think he will do well at Racing for a couple of years also very good guy, one of the best. his tackling is dynamite, last 2 games concussions for Nonu Toulon and Otega Castres 2 massive hits by Anthony.
     
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    Pool 1
    Racing 92
    Leicester Tigers

    Pool 2
    Wasps
    Connacht

    Europe not a priority for Toulouse from what i know at the club, last season Mola picked his team more based on our next opponent in the league than the opposition in CCup and i think he will do same again this coming season.

    Pool 3
    Saracens
    Toulon

    Pool 4
    Montpelier
    Leinster

    Pool 5
    Exeter
    Clermont or Ulster

    question mark about Clermont's real apetite here after another trophyless season. They are the best team here, been the most consistent and play great rugby but they may focus on league and save their energy for the bigger prize.
     
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    Certainly Tuitivake will bring something different to the table. Some 'robustness' in the backline beyond Chavancy's doggedness could prove useful. As is Goosen's defence in the 13 channel won't be intimidating any pro rugby player though TBF that's not what he is there for.

    I think Clermont certainly has the depth to go for it. Racing certainly focussed on both this season and showed that it could pay off. I mean, we didn't do a Toulon but 1 title and 2nd place is pretty good. Reach for the stars and land on the moon type of thing though I can certainly uderstad the reasoning behind nt fully committing to both also. I believe the idiom for that reasoning is sitting on two chairs you might end up falling between them or something to that effect.
     
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    i feel sorry for the scarlets, that group is horrendous
     
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    yes they have the depth, not quite Toulon or Racing's depth, but my point is do they have the hunger?

    Their problem is they have played the best rugby all season, finished top of the pile again before the playoffs but have once again nothing to show for it. So they might just settle for one comp instead of chasing both and end up with naught again.
    I'm not saying they'll field a mickey mouse side in CCup. They won't and neither did we last season. But they might just take it easy and use Europe to fine tune for the T14 and work out their best combos before important league games which is what Toulouse did last season and it paid off with our 1st place in December.
     
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    Fixtures are out, going to try to go Munster but December is an arse ache of a time to travel.
     
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    I'll be in Montpellier in October, might have exams when we're in Castres.
     
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    Booked my Limerick hotel.

    At least it was book now pay when i arrive and can cancel for Nothing till 24 hours before.

    Will be my first time visiting tigers second home.
     
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    @Groundhog what is Absolute like? and what pubs and clubs etc should i be looking for?
     
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    Fancy little hotel for you there Tigs eh? Well I'm fairly ignorant on Limerick City (have been 'clubbing' there once (Harry Potter mystery tour from college no big)) as I'm from Dublin, but if you ask those Munsterfans heads they'll steer you right. Everyone in Limerick knows each other, and they'll probably hold your hand. They're quite good about it. From what I know I'd avoid wandering too far out from the city center. Around Thomand isn't a nice place, but on gamedays it's fine. Sure get @munstermuffin to lead you about and maybe find out if his grammar is really that bad in real life.
    I would actually love to head down for that game, but I'll most likely still be in Austria studying.
     
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    Yeh not going to Glasgow or Racing so can afford to spend a bit more on this.

    Fortunately a 3:15 KO which i'm so happy about.
     
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