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Robshaw and Wood must be bricking it
Yeah and no. Robshaw's blatantly not going to stay at 7, but if Jones decides he wants a strong breakdown from his blindside, I think Robshaw's got a shot at that.
 

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Yeah and no. Robshaw's blatantly not going to stay at 7, but if Jones decides he wants a strong breakdown from his blindside, I think Robshaw's got a shot at that.
Be a shame to waste 40 caps worth of experience, especially as fundamentally he's a good six.
 

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Yeah and no. Robshaw's blatantly not going to stay at 7, but if Jones decides he wants a strong breakdown from his blindside, I think Robshaw's got a shot at that.
+1. I think if Robshaw gets a shot at 6 for quinns and England he will suprise a few people. Some forget how good some of his performances were for England despite every man and his dog telling him he shouldnt be playing there.
 

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I agree he would be a good 6 for England. Similar role to lydiate but better at the breakdown.

However there are is a lot of competition and other players have a significant point of difference. Such a ewers ball carrying.
 

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Judging by that, can we assume that he's going to want at least two players who can (genuinely) compete on the floor in his back row?
To be fair, that's talking about Robshaw specifically as an openside. I feel that being "workmanlike" is Robshaw's point of difference, and is especially useful at 6. Even if Jones thought Robshaw lacks a point of difference for international rugby in general, under new guidance, Robshaw does have the chance to develop that point of difference.

And although he lags behind the 7s, Robshaw would be ahead of most international 6s in the breakdown. A Robshaw/Kvesic or Fraser partnership would be impressive in the breakdown IMO. But maybe Jones is looking for a specialist 6 too, I'm not sure.

But as Olyy says, I think Wood will be bricking it. 6 is gonna be a crowded field.
 
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I agree he would be a good 6 for England. Similar role to lydiate but better at the breakdown.

However there are is a lot of competition and other players have a significant point of difference. Such a ewers ball carrying.
I think people do a disservice to Ewers when it comes to his breakdown work too. Sure, he's not an out-and-out jackal, but he's significantly above average for 6. More flexible than Robshaw and stronger than Wood over the ball.
 

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To be fair, that's talking about Robshaw specifically as an openside. I feel that being "workmanlike" is Robshaw's point of difference, and is especially useful at 6. Even if Jones thought Robshaw lacks a point of difference for international rugby in general, under new guidance, Robshaw does have the chance to develop that point of difference.

And although he lags behind the 7s, Robshaw would be ahead of most international 6s in the breakdown. A Robshaw/Kvesic or Fraser partnership would be impressive in the breakdown IMO. But maybe Jones is looking for a specialist 6 too, I'm not sure.

But as Olyy says, I think Wood will be bricking it. 6 is gonna be a crowded field.
Ironically wood is playing his best rugby for years again at 7. He is winning turnovers and being a pest at the breakdown.
 

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Ironically wood is playing his best rugby for years again at 7. He is winning turnovers and being a pest at the breakdown.
He's always been fairly good for Northampton the same as Goode is always good for Sarries . I still don't want either of them near the England team because they just can't produce the goods consistently at international level
 

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He's always been fairly good for Northampton the same as Goode is always good for Sarries . I still don't want either of them near the England team because they just can't produce the goods consistently at international level
I do love Tom wood for Northampton at times but feel he lacks that extra bit of.......strength, or speed, or something at international level.

I do think he was the best 6 in England for a number of years though but at international level you need that bit extra.

Alex goode isn't a rugby player by the way, he is a joke.
 

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I do love Tom wood for Northampton at times but feel he lacks that extra bit of.......strength, or speed, or something at international level

I think the word you're looking for is ability.
 

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I do love Tom wood for Northampton at times but feel he lacks that extra bit of.......strength, or speed, or something at international level.

I do think he was the best 6 in England for a number of years though but at international level you need that bit extra.

Alex goode isn't a rugby player by the way, he is a joke.
Alex Goode's positioning and kicking is about as good as you'll see from a 15 anywhere and it's a huge shame that England never really found a way to bring his vision and distribution into play effectively because it's been quite key for Sarries. He is simply not a good enough broken-field runner to play international rugby but a team better suited to his strengths could have hidden that a lot better and at domestic level, he's not too shabby.

In short, your post was wrong... and now I feel dirty for defending Alex Goode.

The Tom Wood that burst onto the international scene didn't really appear short of strength or speed.

I've seen Quins fans remarking on how quick Robshaw looks now. Really is beginning to feel like the pre-season conditioning kicked in too late for England...
 
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