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Bullitt
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Sall factors also such as the RFU only allowing 2 professional leagues, so only a maximum of 28 teams, may have something to do with the low stock of top draw players.
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Prestwick
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This is the strange thing, most of the GP clubs ARE funding and developing excellent facilities and programs to capture and develop young local talent. Saracen's Academy for example is literally so full, the club is paying any Bed & Breakfast/Pub/Inn with free rooms nearby to take young hopefuls. The facilities at the Academy are said to be superb and are so good, they cover all the local clubs in the Counties of Hertfordshire, Essex and Buckinghamshire.
Yes, we've bought Chris Jack, a load of Italians, a Scot and a couple of Boks but that I think is just a stop gap until the younger talent comes of age and starts to prove its worth. One of the earliest signs of good local talent coming through is Number 8 Ben Skirving who hails from Bishops Stortford in Essex, just up the road from me. The Gaffer (Alan Gaffney) is definitely not afraid to be brutal selection wise and if he sees a good English prospect in the Saracens A team, he won't hesitate to push them into the first XV.
Allot of other clubs like Worcester, Bath, Quins, Irish and Wasps have to turn to local talent because they haven't the financial muscle or the recent form or reputation to lure big names. Worcester managed to pull off a coup with signing Rico Gear but I think that was done simply on the sheer charisma of Mike Ruddock and Cecil Duckworth alone rather than any reputation or gaurantees of getting a decent position in the GP. Remember, since promotion Worcester have hung on by the skin of their teeth most seasons in the GP and barely escaped relegation last season in the last game.
In conclusion, while it may come as a shocking surprise to some SH chaps, not all GP clubs are rolling around in used £50 notes snorting cocaine off of the bums of fresh Latvian hookers. This is a consequence of meddling by incompetent administrators in all levels of the game in England and Europe as a whole.
So really, the idea of this forever running conveyor belt from the SH to the GP is a false one. There simply isn't the cash to sustain such big name signings in the future, clubs will be forced (if they haven't already) to look locally or at least within England to develop talent.
Yes, we've bought Chris Jack, a load of Italians, a Scot and a couple of Boks but that I think is just a stop gap until the younger talent comes of age and starts to prove its worth. One of the earliest signs of good local talent coming through is Number 8 Ben Skirving who hails from Bishops Stortford in Essex, just up the road from me. The Gaffer (Alan Gaffney) is definitely not afraid to be brutal selection wise and if he sees a good English prospect in the Saracens A team, he won't hesitate to push them into the first XV.
Allot of other clubs like Worcester, Bath, Quins, Irish and Wasps have to turn to local talent because they haven't the financial muscle or the recent form or reputation to lure big names. Worcester managed to pull off a coup with signing Rico Gear but I think that was done simply on the sheer charisma of Mike Ruddock and Cecil Duckworth alone rather than any reputation or gaurantees of getting a decent position in the GP. Remember, since promotion Worcester have hung on by the skin of their teeth most seasons in the GP and barely escaped relegation last season in the last game.
In conclusion, while it may come as a shocking surprise to some SH chaps, not all GP clubs are rolling around in used £50 notes snorting cocaine off of the bums of fresh Latvian hookers. This is a consequence of meddling by incompetent administrators in all levels of the game in England and Europe as a whole.
So really, the idea of this forever running conveyor belt from the SH to the GP is a false one. There simply isn't the cash to sustain such big name signings in the future, clubs will be forced (if they haven't already) to look locally or at least within England to develop talent.
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Melkor
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I didnt have any ideia of such training conditions. Even here in Portugal there isnt such good conditions fod football... so for rugby you can imagine... we have about 20 small clubs, without any conditions.
About the game... i dont know how did the score got so diferent... but they were unlucky too, the English players.
About the game... i dont know how did the score got so diferent... but they were unlucky too, the English players.
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jeffb
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My Ass Union is superior.Farrell; I'm sorry League fans, but if he's the best player ever then it shows how superior Union is. He can f*** off back to Wigan.
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They needed a knackerd League player to be the savour of English RU. Eveyone seems to forget about Billy Whizz background, its league that has made him the player that he was.
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Prestwick
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I didnt have any ideia of such training conditions. Even here in Portugal there isnt such good conditions fod football... so for rugby you can imagine... we have about 20 small clubs, without any conditions.
About the game... i dont know how did the score got so diferent... but they were unlucky too, the English players. [/b]
It helps Portugal that they have a very dynamic and passionate air in how they play, luckily this seems to have translated to Portuguese rugby too.
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getofmeland
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The Talk now is that Robinson is out of the World Cup... and that they are arranging for Nick Abendanon to Fly so he can play full back... On the Abendanon front he has just played 80 minutes of Rugby for Bath...
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hooli
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nice win of l Africa of the sud.on saw English
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Prestwick
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The Talk now is that Robinson is out of the World Cup... and that they are arranging for Nick Abendanon to Fly so he can play full back... On the Abendanon front he has just played 80 minutes of Rugby for Bath... [/b]
And your view and opinion on whether Adebdanon can hack it? When I saw him against France at Twickenham he was reasonably good...he didn't screw up anyway.
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getofmeland
Guest
Well I felt he should been in the squad to start of with, but I personally wouldn't want to see him go now... purely because he is being used as a second string player, also he would then be tarnished with the disgrace that is English Rugby at the moment... Plus it will be very difficult for him to adapt to the England setup...
I think he would hack it, but I think he should refuse to go...
I think he would hack it, but I think he should refuse to go...
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Rockstar
Guest
What are you guys talking about!!?? Isn't this the thread for South Africa vs England!!!??
Springboks thumped the English in style Baby!!!
Springboks thumped the English in style Baby!!!
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getofmeland
Guest
What are you guys talking about!!?? Isn't this the thread for South Africa vs England!!!??
Springboks thumped the English in style Baby!!! [/b]
Yes this is the thread for the discussion but obviously you didn't watch the game, you have just seen the scoreline and decided to comment on it...
We were talking about the injury to Jason Robinson and it was the reaction to the result... but obviously you find it very difficult to discuss things and say things which are uterly pointless and meaningless to this thread...
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Rockstar
Guest
<div class='quotemain'> What are you guys talking about!!?? Isn't this the thread for South Africa vs England!!!??
Springboks thumped the English in style Baby!!! [/b]
Yes this is the thread for the discussion but obviously you didn't watch the game, you have just seen the scoreline and decided to comment on it...
We were talking about the injury to Jason Robinson and it was the reaction to the result... but obviously you find it very difficult to discuss things and say things which are uterly pointless and meaningless to this thread...
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HAHA! Calm down dude,
Damn you English are such bad losers!! You English were already down 20 odd points when Robinson got injuerd.....wouldn't have changed a thing. haha! 36-0, thats nil, nought, nothing!
Enjoy the rest of the World Cup............Good luck with making out of the pool stage.......
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getofmeland
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<div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotemain'> What are you guys talking about!!?? Isn't this the thread for South Africa vs England!!!??
Springboks thumped the English in style Baby!!! [/b]
Yes this is the thread for the discussion but obviously you didn't watch the game, you have just seen the scoreline and decided to comment on it...
We were talking about the injury to Jason Robinson and it was the reaction to the result... but obviously you find it very difficult to discuss things and say things which are uterly pointless and meaningless to this thread...
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HAHA! Calm down dude,
Damn you English are such bad losers!! You English were already down 20 odd points when Robinson got injuerd.....wouldn't have changed a thing. haha! 36-0, thats nil, nought, nothing!
Enjoy the rest of the World Cup............Good luck with making out of the pool stage....... [/b][/quote]
HAHA!!! I am calm dude,
Wow you seriously can't read can you... Have any of us blamed Robinson's injury for why we lost, NO!!! We blame the team as a whole, We have praised South Africa...
Well enjoy your reading lessons
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Prestwick
Guest
Ignore him mate, he's just being a dick and trying wind people up.
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Rockstar
Guest
<div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotemain'> What are you guys talking about!!?? Isn't this the thread for South Africa vs England!!!??
Springboks thumped the English in style Baby!!! [/b]
Yes this is the thread for the discussion but obviously you didn't watch the game, you have just seen the scoreline and decided to comment on it...
We were talking about the injury to Jason Robinson and it was the reaction to the result... but obviously you find it very difficult to discuss things and say things which are uterly pointless and meaningless to this thread...
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HAHA! Calm down dude,
Damn you English are such bad losers!! You English were already down 20 odd points when Robinson got injuerd.....wouldn't have changed a thing. haha! 36-0, thats nil, nought, nothing!
Enjoy the rest of the World Cup............Good luck with making out of the pool stage....... [/b][/quote]
HAHA!!! I am calm dude,
Wow you seriously can't read can you... Have any of us blamed Robinson's injury for why we lost, NO!!! We blame the team as a whole, We have praised South Africa...
Well enjoy your reading lessons
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Haha! Sorry dude just trying to get to you...obviously it worked! Cough cough....damn dude thats quite sad.....anyway....enjoy the Rugby World Cup!
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Prestwick
Guest
Haha! Sorry dude just trying to get to you...obviously it worked! Cough cough....damn dude thats quite sad.....anyway....enjoy the Rugby World Cup! [/b]
No, he is just wondering why you're being so pointlessly nasty towards him and England fans in general. Nothing got to him and obviously you're looking like a bit of an idiot right now.
No more stirring, get back on topic or I close the thread Rockstar. Got it?
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Rockstar
Guest
Sorry dude, I did miss the point of the forum......and I apologise for upsetting you and the rest of the English supporters.............
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getofmeland
Guest
Sorry dude, I did miss the point of the forum......and I apologise for upsetting you and the rest of the English supporters.............
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So this just proves you can't discuss things and take the topic back on topic...
Which is of course the roundup of the England vs South Africa Game, and the reviews of both teams and the discussion around all this...
It is funny how majority of the Boks Supporters have come along and been rather pleasant and gentlemen in victory, then you get a number of numpties who have just got into rugby because it is the World Cup...
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RC
Guest
Well, the world would be a boring place without idiots like that.
A nicer place...but more boring.
A nicer place...but more boring.
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getofmeland
Guest
The World would be a nicer place without a lot of things... But ahh such is life...
The World be a fantastic place without the incompetent RFU and Rob Andrew and guess what it wouldn't be boring either, England may play some exciting rugby for once...
I am very tempted to just start supporting the Saxons as they seem to be able to manage themselves and get decent results...
The World be a fantastic place without the incompetent RFU and Rob Andrew and guess what it wouldn't be boring either, England may play some exciting rugby for once...
I am very tempted to just start supporting the Saxons as they seem to be able to manage themselves and get decent results...
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