I didnt say that Chris. I was talking about the intensity of rivalries. You seem to expect them to be more intense, more tribal, like football rivalries. I was just pointing out that they arent like that over here. Munster and Leinster can beat the living shite out of eachother on Saturday, the fans will still go drinking together, look forward to the world cup, and raise a glass to Connacht inclusion in next years tournament. We will all (well most of us) be able to reflect on what has been a pretty good year for Irish rugby. I didnt say that either Chris. I said that its easy to support your biggest rival for a number of reasons. All of which made possible by the fact that the rivalry is not as intense as you portray yours to be. I didnt say that either Chris. I didnt bring up England, ir the English at all. Rugby World cup, or football world cup? I undertsand how Irish rugby supporters behave, and I understand how the rivalries work. I just dont understand the mentality that would have me hoping for Munster to lose because they are geographically close to me.