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IRB Match Sheet for Thailand-India match:
http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/matches/match=13779/index.html

I think in the next few days I will try to start a new thread where all of these IRB match reports can be easily accessed and in an index...although the IRB tend to be slow in putting in the information. Example: the African fixtures have not been filled in yet CAR has put the gamesheets over a week ago.
 
Africa
Already qualified: South Africa
Qualifier places: 1
Repechage places: 1

Still in hunt: Zimbabwe, Uganda, Kenya, Madagascar, Tunisia, Namibia, Senegal, Botswana, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Mauritius, Zambia, Nigeria (13 teams)

The final qualification for RWC2015 will be the CAR Division 1A tournament in 2014, with the winner of the four team draw going to England and the runner-up having one more chance in the repechage. Div 1A tournament for 2013 sees Zimbabwe, Uganda, Kenya and Madagascar trying to avoid being last-placed and therefore eliminated, while Tunisia, Namibia, Senegal and one team to be decided in a few weeks will battle for the right to take part in the 2014 tournament. Namibia has been a regular at world cups for some time and a heavy favourite to qualify this time too, but they were beaten by Madagascar and will have to fight for promotion to Div 1A first next year, so we might see some other team book a trip to England. I think many of us (me included) will root for Madagascar due to the unbelievable passion for the game in this country, as can be seen in a link just a few posts above. Come on, 40 000 people cheering on Tier 3 team? They really deserve it! The current (decided today) Africa Cup champions are Zimbabwe and they can have some expectations to qualify. Overall, I think both the qualifier place and repechage place will go to two teams among Zimbabwe, Uganda, Kenya (their sevens team is very impressive, I wonder if they could translate it to XV), Madagascar and Namibia.

My tip:
Qualifier: Madagascar
Repechage: Kenya

My tip:
Qualifier: Namibia
Repechage: Zimbabwe

Although Madagascar did amazingly well this year and have amazing fans, it's worth remembering two things.

1. They won't have that home advantage again in qualifying. They only just sneaked past both Morocco and Namibia with that great home advantage, but how will they do in front of 1,000 fans who aren't jumping about chanting for them?

2. Namibia have always traditionally fielded a slightly weaker team at the early stages of qualification as they just expect to sneak through with it, and then call up their more well known players for the more important stages. They still have Jacques Burger, Tinus du Plessis, Rohan Kitshoff, Danie van Wyk and Conrad Marais who are five of their better players to return to this side, they may come back earlier now that they have been backed into a corner somewhat.

But saying that, they are now just a loss away from elimination, so it is still definitely one of the most open African qualifying campaigns ever.


Americas
Already qualified: Argentina
Qualifier places: 2
Repechage places: 1

Still in hunt: Canada, USA, Uruguay, Chile, Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, Paraguay, Peru, Bermuda (10 teams)

The two North American Tier 2 countries play directly for a qualifier spots, with the loser still getting a second chance versus the best team from the rest of America. The road for South American teams is much more difficult, especially for those competing in CONSUR B tournament (Colombia, Venezuela, Paraguay and Peru) - they have to win this tournament, then beat Bermuda (away, unless it's Paraguay who win), then beat Brazil for a right to play in CONSUR A in 2013, then win this tournament, and finally beat the loser of Canada/USA in home & away series! So probably only the repechage place is a realistic target for them, and will probably be contested between Uruguay and Chile, who made a very big progress lately.

My tip:
Qualifiers: Canada, USA
Repechage: Chile

My tip:
Qualifiers: Canada, USA
Repechage: Uruguay

Canada and USA are obvious certainties. I would still back Uruguay to take the Repechage spot over Chile, although Chile do have a chance they are underdogs.

Asia
Already qualified: none
Qualifier places: 1
Repechage places: 1

Still in hunt: Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, United Arab Emirates, Philippines, Kazakhstan, Taiwan, Sri Lanka, Thailand (9 teams)

Here, Japan is 99,9% certain to take the qualifier place without any trouble. The battle for the repechage place should be very tight though. In this year's Asian Five Nations it was South Korea who took second place behind Japan, with the other traditionally strong team in Hong Kong, but I think one should notice how rapidly the Philippines team is improving. This year they won Asian 5N Division 1 despite being the lowest ranked team in the competition, and only 3 years ago they played in 5N Div 3! So as they earned the promotion to next year's main 5N tournament, they went up four level of competition in four years, now that's progress!

My tip:
Qualifier: Japan
Repechage: Philippines
My tip:
Qualifier: Japan
Repechage: Hong Kong
Japan will obviously win this easily. Not too sure about the rest though, the second place in the Asian 5N has often changed, South Korea have it currently, and Hong Kong have had it as well as Kazakhstan who appear to have lost their way this year (apparently some of their best Russian based players don't play for them any more). The Philippines are also improving as you say, so it is hard to predict. Either way though, whoever gets through as repechage has no chance of qualifying so it doesn't matter too much.
Europe
Already qualified: England, France, Wales, Ireland, Scotland, Italy
Qualifier places: 2
Repechage places: 1

Still in hunt: Georgia, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Spain, Belgium, Czech Republic, Germany, Ukraine, Moldova, Poland, Sweden, Croatia, Lithuania, Netherlands, Switzerland, Malta, Denmark, Andorra, Latvia, Serbia, Israel, Austria, Hungary, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Slovenia, Finland, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Greece, Luxembourg, Norway (32 teams)

European qualifying process is not under way yet, so every team has a chance to qualify. It's pretty certain that the 2+1 winning places will go to teams from European Nations Cup Division 1A, which means Georgia, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Spain and Belgium.

My tip:
Qualifiers: Georgia, Romania
Repechage: Poland ;) ok, seriously Portugal

My tip:
Qualifiers: Georgia, Romania
Repechage: Russia

Georgia are certainties. In the IRB Nations Cup, Romania finally looked to show a little bit of promise, after years and years of over reliance on players now reaching their mid thirties and looking like they would be in grave danger of not qualifying for the first time, it's early days but there is now some more encorouging signs from some players who are not in their mid thirties, such as Viorel Lucaci, Dorin Manole, Mihai Macovei, Otar Turashvili and Catalin Fercu and Mihai Adascaletei who returned from life bans from the national team.

I think Russia will qualify, they have been rubbish this year as they have constantly played an experimental weak team and been losing heavily with it to Georgia and Romania, with the excuse of "rebuilding" the squad, but in the important qualifying matches I think they will qualify, their back three is by far the best in the division and much better than a few Tier 1 nations as well.

The other team who has a chance of taking Russia's spot is Francia (aka Spain), they have improved a lot this year thanks to finding as many French players as possible with some Spanish connection.

I don't think Portugal have much chance, although they beat Spain this year, Spain were more impressive in the other matches of the tournament.

Oceania
Already qualified: New Zealand, Australia, Samoa, Tonga
Qualifier places: 1
Repechage places: 0

Still in hunt: Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Cook Islands, Niue, Tahiti, Wallis and Futuna, American Samoa (10 teams)

It's simple here in the Pacific - 9 teams play in the Oceania Cup next year, and the winner faces Fiji to get a ticket to England. It's hard to imagine anyone beating the Flying Fijians. The team to try that will probably be Papua New Guinea.

My tip:
Qualifier: Fiji
My tip:
Qualifier: Fiji

Easy.

Repechage
The four teams which earned a repechage places will battle for the last spot in RWC2015. This should be pretty interesting as we have virtually no intercontinental games between Tier 3 coutries.

My tip, assuming my previous tips (Kenya, Chile, Philippines, Portugal): Portugal


So, currently there are no less than 74 teams fighting for just 8 spots in RWC2015. The fiercest battle should be seen in Africa and Europe. If my predictions come true, we'll see Madagascar, Canada, USA, Japan, Georgia, Romania, Portugal and Fiji in England. But before that, I hope we'll see a lot of exciting matches, like the one between Madagascar-Namibia a few days ago!


* In fact there's African CAR Division 1C playing in two weeks time, so I have to admit that the real reason for me doing this recap is that nothing went the way I wanted it to in the final round of Super Rugby! Just hope that the title goes to Chiefs or Crusaders!

From the Repechage teams I predicted, the final would be between Russia and Uruguay. It would be very close, but I predict Uruguay to nick it slightly as Russia's scrum is awful.
 
Asia
Already qualified: none
Qualifier places: 1
Repechage places: 1

Still in hunt: Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, United Arab Emirates, Philippines, Kazakhstan, Taiwan, Sri Lanka, Thailand (9 teams)

Here, Japan is 99,9% certain to take the qualifier place without any trouble. The battle for the repechage place should be very tight though. In this year's Asian Five Nations it was South Korea who took second place behind Japan, with the other traditionally strong team in Hong Kong, but I think one should notice how rapidly the Philippines team is improving. This year they won Asian 5N Division 1 despite being the lowest ranked team in the competition, and only 3 years ago they played in 5N Div 3! So as they earned the promotion to next year's main 5N tournament, they went up four level of competition in four years, now that's progress!

My tip:
Qualifier: Japan
Repechage: Philippines



While I am half Filipino and would love to see them through to repechage, I think that is unrealistic of the squad at the moment. I will be obtaining their matches on DVD within the coming days so I will be able to fully analyze their play, but already I know they have a few issues.

One is the front row. Their first choice loosehead and hooker are in their latter 30s. While they have been able to get by these weaker teams with these 2, and they have performed well, I do not think they can compete next year or in two years time vs. the likes of Hong Kong, Japan, and even South Korea. These two have played in almost every test match for the Philippines. The amount of quality depth within the Philippines isn't there and I do not know how much they can pull from abroad for the front row. Their 'second choice' hooker is only 27 but it is unknown after that where Coach Expo Meijia will turn. They have a very physical and very good tighthead prop, he's only 27.
In the loose (based off film I've watched on youtube), the forwards don't look overly impressive vs. weaker sides. Most tries this year were given up on the drive off the lineout. When I get the chance to watch the games we will get a better idea but no doubt the forward pack is not the strength of the squad.

Where the Philippines really excels is in the backline. Scrumhalf is steady and young, captained the first-ever Philippines national team (U19 in 2006) and then started SH for the senior squad in the Philippines 2nd ever senior test match at the age of 18. Played in 15 out of 16 ever Philippines test matches. I believe he is studying for his masters at the moment so he is just playing in Australia. Current Philippines 7's captain.

Flyhalf is basically the same story. Came to the senior squad as a young 22 year old in 2008 and has never looked back. Been first choice since 2008 and has made 11 straight test starts. Good runner who has a clever boot. His name is Oliver 'Oli' Saunders, and he just signed to play in Japan Top League for NNT Shining Arcs. 140 test points from 7 tries, 30 conversions, and 15 penalties.

The inside center may be their most talented player. Nicknamed 'The Flying Jeepney', Justin Coveney is a hard and quick runner. His 6 tries in just 6 matches is tied for 3rd in team history, and 30 points is 4th overall. Scored 4 tries in relegation match last year vs. Malaysia. In the championship match vs Sri Lanka when SL closed the gap to 5 and under 10 to play, he caught a little chip kick from FH Oli Saunders and beat 3 defenders to score the try that clinched promotion.
At outside center is another 2 players who play in Japan now, both terrific runners. Both versatile in backline, they can also play on the wing. Outside center/left wing Matthew Saunders, brother of Oli, has scored a current Philippine record 10 test tries. Wing is the same story, good depth with tons of pace that can finish.
At fullback is the captain Michael Letts. He's a senior member of the squad, started in 2007, and captained the last 12 matches (since 2008). Will turn 30 next year.

The strength is obviously the backline of this team...in my opinion they are on par with Korea in this area. With tons of depth here, they should have no problem moving around players next year in the Top 5. Most of the backline also plays 7s rugby for the Philippines and some were playing in the HK 7s this past season.

While the backline talent is there, I do not think the Philippines is quite ready yet to compete up front with the 'Big 3' of Asia. They should be able to compete with UAE and if they get the fixture at home that'll be a huge advantage as there will be support and it will be loud! This should open doors for a lot of players as well as most compete in Australia in lower levels but with exposure surely more players will earn pro contracts to Japan. I think they beat UAE next year to remain in the Top 5. Once next season goes by, we will be able to see the level of this team.
 
My tip:
Qualifier: Namibia
Repechage: Zimbabwe

Although Madagascar did amazingly well this year and have amazing fans, it's worth remembering two things.

Yeah, I know the Makis qualifying for the world cup is not very likely to happen unless they play every qualification game at home, but I wrote at the beginning that my tips are somehow wishful thinking (though not totally ridiculous, at least I tried them not to be ;)). I really would like to see Madagascar make some more waves in the African rugby. And as you said, it seems that RWC qualification in Africa is very open and probably the most interesting of all continents (Europe being the other one where the qualifiers are not 98% sure).

The same wishful thinking applies to the Philippines in Asia, but again - second place in Asian Five Nations is not totally impossible for them to achieve, just difficult. Usausa, thanks a lot for your detailed info on the Volcanoes!

Thanks for all your comments, personally I can't wait for next matches of the qualifying process!
 
The same wishful thinking applies to the Philippines in Asia, but again - second place in Asian Five Nations is not totally impossible for them to achieve, just difficult. Usausa, thanks a lot for your detailed info on the Volcanoes!

Thanks for all your comments, personally I can't wait for next matches of the qualifying process!

You are right, not totally immpossible! They have had the same core and head coach since 2010, and that bodes well for them. And if they get the right fixtures at home, say like playing at least one or both of Hong Kong and Korea at home, anything can happen!
 
From the Repechage teams I predicted, the final would be between Russia and Uruguay. It would be very close, but I predict Uruguay to nick it slightly as Russia's scrum is awful.

I say the Russia/Uruguay game earlier this summer in the IRB Nations Cup. The Russian scrum was indeed abysmal, but they made up for it with solid back play and the fact that Uruguay could not move the ball without knocking it on.
 
Russia are a more professional outfit, i would expect them to beat Uruguay

A more professional outfit but who have no credible props who can scrum. Russia are a much better side in the loose and out wide, and would be favourites, but their inability to scrum would give Uruguay a chance and mean the match could go either way.
 
I think you are overrating the importance of the scrum at that level of rugby duck, but i get your point. I know of one famous Uruguayan prop, i think he's retired now though. What makes you think they would dominate the Russian's so much in that department?
 
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Well based on the RWC the Russian lineout is weak as well, I remember the US stealing almost half of their throws...if you can't win your set pieces you don't get possession and your backs/loosies can't show what they have if they don't have the ball. I think set pieces are so important. I criticize the USA Eagles for being sooo bad in the scrum because even on their own put-ins the Eagles get pushed back 4-5 meters and force #8 to pick it up before the scumhalf even gets back there. Getting clean ball off your set pieces is imperative in order to maximize your set plays success.
 
I know but we are talking about a hypothetical situation where Russia are playing Uruguay. Will they be dominated so much that they won't even have possession? Will it affect the score line that much? Based on the tier two matches i've seen i doubt it (Georgia v Romania is an exception). The scrum is seen as more of a mode of restarting play rather than a contest at that level imo.

When the US played against Italy their weak scrum was exposed and even against Ireland and Australia in the WC. But against other tier 2 countries i don't think it is such a major factor.
 
That view is incorrect, particularly when it comes to a country like Uruguay whose strength is in the scrum.
 
I know but we are talking about a hypothetical situation where Russia are playing Uruguay. Will they be dominated so much that they won't even have possession? Will it affect the score line that much? Based on the tier two matches i've seen i doubt it (Georgia v Romania is an exception). The scrum is seen as more of a mode of restarting play rather than a contest at that level imo.

When the US played against Italy their weak scrum was exposed and even against Ireland and Australia in the WC. But against other tier 2 countries i don't think it is such a major factor.

If Russia plays an expansive style like they should then hopefully the scrum issues will be minimal. The new-look USA have been implementing this style, a complete 180 from the Eddie O'Sullivan days. As for the US scrum, it looks weak against every, and I mean everyone. Saxons embarrassed them last year as did Tonga and even Japan. We have no front row depth and our tight head is awful. Our best prop is in his later days and our hooker is better but still inconsistent.

As for your point, I do see where you are coming from. I agree with you that these two teams are even enough where neither will be able to control the possession by a lot. Russia just needs to avoid knock-ons on their side and on defense not let Uruguay count up the phases. As mentioned before Russia have a very talented back 3 and if they can play a territory game and force Uruguay to kick surely they will put themselves in a great position to win.
 
If the tighthead you are talking about being awful is Fry, you're a year in the past. He's not a world-class scrummager but he has improved immensely since last year to the point that he earned an Air New Zealand Cup contract with Manawatu because he impressed them so much in a warmup match against them. And while the Georgians and Italians got the best of him in the scrum, those are among the best scrums in the world.

Help is on the way long term, too. If you haven't watched the video of the first HSAA match against Chile, Titi Lamositele is a BEAST. He'll probably be too young for 2015 but I fully expect him to be a starting Eagle prop in the future.
 
I think you are overrating the importance of the scrum at that level of rugby duck, but i get your point. I know of one famous Uruguayan prop, i think he's retired now though. What makes you think they would dominate the Russian's so much in that department?

You don't seem to be understanding that the Russian scrum is woeful. Perhaps some video evidence would help you understand this. Seriously the Russian scrum is the laughing stock of the ENC.

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I know but we are talking about a hypothetical situation where Russia are playing Uruguay. Will they be dominated so much that they won't even have possession? Will it affect the score line that much? Based on the tier two matches i've seen i doubt it (Georgia v Romania is an exception). The scrum is seen as more of a mode of restarting play rather than a contest at that level imo.

Utter rubbish. The scrum effects Tier 2 and Tier 3 matches even more than Tier 1 matches. The scrum was the main reason that Georgia beat Canada in 2010, Romania won the IRB Nations Cup this year thanks to them getting on top of the Italy A scrum.

If Russia plays an expansive style like they should then hopefully the scrum issues will be minimal. The new-look USA have been implementing this style, a complete 180 from the Eddie O'Sullivan days. As for the US scrum, it looks weak against every, and I mean everyone. Saxons embarrassed them last year as did Tonga and even Japan. We have no front row depth and our tight head is awful. Our best prop is in his later days and our hooker is better but still inconsistent.

As for your point, I do see where you are coming from. I agree with you that these two teams are even enough where neither will be able to control the possession by a lot. Russia just needs to avoid knock-ons on their side and on defense not let Uruguay count up the phases. As mentioned before Russia have a very talented back 3 and if they can play a territory game and force Uruguay to kick surely they will put themselves in a great position to win.

Not quite everyone, they can still win scrum penalties against Russia.

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If the tighthead you are talking about being awful is Fry, you're a year in the past. He's not a world-class scrummager but he has improved immensely since last year to the point that he earned an Air New Zealand Cup contract with Manawatu because he impressed them so much in a warmup match against them. And while the Georgians and Italians got the best of him in the scrum, those are among the best scrums in the world.

Help is on the way long term, too. If you haven't watched the video of the first HSAA match against Chile, Titi Lamositele is a BEAST. He'll probably be too young for 2015 but I fully expect him to be a starting Eagle prop in the future.

Fry is definitely better than he was in the RWC but I don't think he's still the weakest link in my opinion in the scrum. But 8 have to scrum as 1, and it's on all the forwards that they scrum better. Teams definitely seemed to attack the tighthead side a lot against the USA. Even against Canada our scrum struggled. I haven't watched any of the HSAA highlights although I hear they are playing quite well! The College AA's did great too! It seems as the senior players are loving this quick expansive style, and it takes advantage of the USA's great backline and it minimizes their weakness at the breakdown/contact.
 
Utter rubbish. The scrum effects Tier 2 and Tier 3 matches even more than Tier 1 matches. The scrum was the main reason that Georgia beat Canada in 2010, Romania won the IRB Nations Cup this year thanks to them getting on top of the Italy A scrum.



Not quite everyone, they can still win scrum penalties against Russia.

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I reply back to you with a solid Russian push at 5:25, nice clean and drove the US back about 4 meters.

Now in that game, the Russian lineout was embarrassed! If I remember correctly I think they went 6 for 10 on their own throws, and losing 40% of your throws is unacceptable.
 
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I reply back to you with a solid Russian push at 5:25, nice clean and drove the US back about 4 meters.

Now in that game, the Russian lineout was embarrassed! If I remember correctly I think they went 6 for 10 on their own throws, and losing 40% of your throws is unacceptable.

Both the sides are crap scrummagers.
 

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