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Nkosi is a better player then Mapimpi.
SA fans/media are getting way ahead of themselves regarding Nkosi

Argentina defence from Tucalet & Moyano was pathetic for both tries in Pretoria'

Moreover Mapimipi was the Sharks best player in Super Rugby along with Bosch
Nkosi was nowhere to be seen in comparison

Finally Mapimipi & Kolbe are able to play #11 + #14 whilst Nkosi only plays #14

It's the Best 23 players available for the Boks minus Elton Jantjes

No chance F Steyn is backup #10 against Tier 1 teams Guys has 30 mins at most
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Shark fan here who actually watched every match in Super rugby and followed the form. Nkosi was injured for a period, then Fassi and Mapimpi played with Kobus van Wyk coming in occasionally.
When Nkosi came back he was great! They started to play Fassi at Fullback with Nkosi and Mapimpi on the wings. I literally have not seen Nkosi have a bad game, I don't know where this idea comes from.
He currently has 7 tries in 8 games playing for the Springboks against tier 1 nations. His record is comparable with Julian Savea in his heyday in terms of try conversion rate.

He is a strong ball carrier/catcher/high ball catcher/ stepper/tackler.

I would pick Nkosi and Mapimpi on the wings and put Kolbe on Fullback (in a Damian McKenzie kind of role)
If you insist on Kolbe at wing then I would as a Shark fan with a love for the Springboks play Nkosi instead of Mapimpi.

I love Mapimpi and I think he is super deadly on the attack but Nkosi is also deadly on the attack just slightly slower than Mapimpi but that is offset by being much better than Mapimpi on defence and being a devilish stepper.

Just to add to this. Mapimpi is an 11 while Nkosi is a 14, and they are great in that position alone. You can't just move a player from the one side to the other as their style of play suits their position. Just like the Habana and JP Pietersen era. Neither of them switched positions on the wing and their skillset matched their position.

There is really no point in comparing these 2 guys.
 
Just to add to this. Mapimpi is an 11 while Nkosi is a 14, and they are great in that position alone. You can't just move a player from the one side to the other as their style of play suits their position. Just like the Habana and JP Pietersen era. Neither of them switched positions on the wing and their skillset matched their position.

There is really no point in comparing these 2 guys.


I'm aware of the winger's respective positions for Sharks

However what makes Mapimpi a more important player for the Boks than Nkosi is
his ability to cover both #11 + #14

Kolbe as well is able to play both wing spots as well as Full Back

This narrative Mapimpi has suddenly become a bad defender is horseshit and based on "2 game
sample"

He was at fault for New Zealand try in 2019 The Argentina try in Salta scored by Cordero
wasn't Mapimpi's fault After a line break there was a 3 vs 2 advantage for Pumas in 15m channel

Sanchez was forced to execute an excellent chip kick to the corner which he did
How this is Mapimpi's fault I have no idea

So we have this false narrative that Mapimpi is a bad defender based on 1 mistake in 1 game
I've watched many more games in which Mapimpi has been the best defensive winger in SA
 
I'm aware of the winger's respective positions for Sharks

However what makes Mapimpi a more important player for the Boks than Nkosi is
his ability to cover both #11 + #14

Kolbe as well is able to play both wing spots as well as Full Back

This narrative Mapimpi has suddenly become a bad defender is horseshit and based on "2 game
sample"

He was at fault for New Zealand try in 2019 The Argentina try in Salta scored by Cordero
wasn't Mapimpi's fault After a line break there was a 3 vs 2 advantage for Pumas in 15m channel

Sanchez was forced to execute an excellent chip kick to the corner which he did
How this is Mapimpi's fault I have no idea

So we have this false narrative that Mapimpi is a bad defender based on 1 mistake in 1 game
I've watched many more games in which Mapimpi has been the best defensive winger in SA

I did not even mention that incident, :D You are the one bringing it up.
Mapimpi has become much better with defending and catching the high ball.
But believe it or not but he was actually horseshit at defending in his Kings and Cheetahs days and probably the early Shark days too. But as I said I recognise he has gotten better at this. My specific point was not that Mapimpi bad, Nkosi good but rather that Nkosi is much better at defence than Mapimpi. So don't jump to conclusions.

In a world cup final, I would take defensive superiority over a slight edge in attacking prowess.
 
I did not even mention that incident, :D You are the one bringing it up.
Mapimpi has become much better with defending and catching the high ball.
But believe it or not but he was actually horseshit at defending in his Kings and Cheetahs days and probably the early Shark days too. But as I said I recognise he has gotten better at this. My specific point was not that Mapimpi bad, Nkosi good but rather that Nkosi is much better at defence than Mapimpi. So don't jump to conclusions.

In a world cup final, I would take defensive superiority over a slight edge in attacking prowess.

This.

But I rate them equally less effective than Kolbe.

Nkosi just seems to own it better when he's defending.
 
Can I just say how great it is that we can be having this discussion; which of 3 wingers (4 if you count Dyantyi and Hendricks looks good too coming back from injruy) are our best 2! I remember the days when we had to make do with cover 13s or 15s on the wing.
 
Can I just say how great it is that we can be having this discussion; which of 3 wingers (4 if you count Dyantyi and Hendricks looks good too coming back from injruy) are our best 2! I remember the days when we had to make do with cover 13s or 15s on the wing.

Not to burst your bubble. But we only sent 3 wingers... So the chance is very high that a 13 (Kriel) or a 15 (Le Roux/Gelant) will cover 15...
 
I think Stormer is just pointing out they are all quality vs a time when we had s#!t wingers across the board.

Strangely Nkosi in particular looks much better in a Springbok jersey, and for that matter so does Kolbe (as opposed to his province time).
Possible that stodgy tactics from the Stormers and Sharks to blame?
 
Just to add to this. Mapimpi is an 11 while Nkosi is a 14, and they are great in that position alone. You can't just move a player from the one side to the other as their style of play suits their position. Just like the Habana and JP Pietersen era. Neither of them switched positions on the wing and their skillset matched their position.

There is really no point in comparing these 2 guys.
Where as for Elliot Daly is 13 which means he can cover 11 14 and 15.o_O.
 
Does anyone know of any means to watch/listen to this game if you don’t reside in SA?

I know it’s being shown on SuperSport, but are there any other ways? Help a Bok fan out please.
 
Does anyone know of any means to watch/listen to this game if you don’t reside in SA?

I know it’s being shown on SuperSport, but are there any other ways? Help a Bok fan out please.

Do you have family in SA with a DSTV account? Then just get their username and password and watch it live on DSTVNow.
 
In NZ this game is included in the RWC package on Spark Sport... Not very hopeful that it'll be any help to you though :(
 
In NZ this game is included in the RWC package on Spark Sport... Not very hopeful that it'll be any help to you though :(


Sadly of no help. I hope there will be highlights available at some point. Got £50 on the Bokke winning 13pts+. COME ON BOKKE!
 
Does anyone know of any means to watch/listen to this game if you don’t reside in SA?

I know it’s being shown on SuperSport, but are there any other ways? Help a Bok fan out please.

Its way to risky to give you my DSTV Steaming details, and while I know of multiple sites that you can watch it on by not so legal but ethical way, unfortunalty i dont think i can post links here.

I can probably tell you what to do though.

Go to google search rugby streams, there should be a number of options even be a reddit rugby streams page with multiple links.
Some Indian cricket streaming websites tend to have rugby streams so if you cant come right with googling rugby streams then try google cricket streams go to the webpage and navigate to the rugby section. Just deal with all the ads in the first 5 minutes and you should be good to go.
 
Its way to risky to give you my DSTV Steaming details, and while I know of multiple sites that you can watch it on by not so legal but ethical way, unfortunalty i dont think i can post links here.

I can probably tell you what to do though.

Go to google search rugby streams, there should be a number of options even be a reddit rugby streams page with multiple links.
Some Indian cricket streaming websites tend to have rugby streams so if you cant come right with googling rugby streams then try google cricket streams go to the webpage and navigate to the rugby section. Just deal with all the ads in the first 5 minutes and you should be good to go.

The streams are my go-to, but my Dad is at home, so he was looking to watch it. I'm asking my auntie in SA for DSTA deets, let's hope he is able to login and view the stream from the UK.

As for the game, I'm a little nervous today...and I know it's only a warm-up match. Let's hope SA have a decent game and we come through unscathed. Fingers crossed.
 
Man, I just couldn't manage to watch the game, listened a bit on the radio, sounded like the conditions were part in parcel the reasoning behind the kicking as it was hot and humid as hell.

Listened for about 10 minutes and in that 10 minutes there was like 2 water breaks.
 
So, for those that saw it...were we good? Also, I heard Trevor limped off...was it bad?

I had a call and couldn't watch the entire thing but from what I could see the defense was rock solid. Japan really brought it to us on occasion but we held them out on our line for ages. In the end our power in the set pieces and greater physicality meant we had go forward aplenty for the nippy men out wide to work with though execution wasn't always 100% so a lot of room for improvement but the conditions were like the worst of Durban humidity. Good experience in that regard- getting a competitive game in in those conditions and knowing what t expect.

I can't speak for the 2nd half and didn't see Nyakane going off.
 
Yes defense was good. Bit scrappy in the first half, but our defense and forward play was really good. Our kicking game is atrocious. Faf and Willie... terrible.
 
Yes defense was good. Bit scrappy in the first half, but our defense and forward play was really good. Our kicking game is atrocious. Faf and Willie... terrible.

Argh, that's sad to hear. The first kick from Le Roux was a beaut in space in behind. There were a few poor kicks I saw (that half fumble and regather from Pollard in our in goal area that got a Japanese hand to it springs to mind) but I didn't get the idea from the first stanza that the kicking was poor in general. Hopefully that's a one off.
 

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