You've already implied the only thing you go by is outcome of the game and are not really interested in the overall scoreline or performance so it seems to be a little pointless to discuss with you why England fans may feel 4 wins in manners less than appealing that will no where near get a win in the latter stages will not be enough and generally don't have a positive outlook on Englands chances in this comp.
I mean I get performance, but after the Fiji game in the warm ups would you, or would you have not bitten the arm off someone suffering you not only 4 wins from 4, but a quarter against Fiji?
Excellent point. To quote a former US football team owner, perhaps not well known in this forum population:
That's great if you like Wales of old getting to semi finals and a few grand slams. Where you finishing in the bottom half of the six nations and loosing to tier 2 teams for the first time in your entire history.
I mean I see that as a RWC semi final lol, something England have never lost
4 from 4 when 3 of those teams we have NEVER lost to and the 1 we have, we have historically beaten 4 times for every time we have lost... Nearly getting our first ever loss against Samoa to follow on from our first ever loss against to Fiji and you wonder what's wrong? Jesus Chris do you look at nothing except the result? Our 4 from 4 is going to count for nothing in the quarters because we are playing like ****.
No argument there either. I've followed England Rugby for a long time, and The last game is as poor as they've played in a while. They might beat Fiji but beyond that? Need to get better, and lucky.
Happy with the wins obviously but let's not think we're setting the world on fire. We were lucky to not lose to a tier 2 nation
Not really I expected a test against Arg in the group but the wrest without being harsh should have been pretty simple, I make no apologise for wanting more from my national team, if it was a case we were playing sensible tactics, playing the strongest players available etc I wouldn't mind we're not, we have been dog **** for far to long relying on players past their best without even putting pressure on them to improve to retain their place.
But what can a semi set up?
could you imagine the Aussies or any other nation really complaining that there side of the draw was too easy…we English do like a moan
Not sure who was saying we weren't supposed to get out our group...the prediction was always a 1st or 2nd place. Nobody legitimately expected us to lose to Japan/Samoa/Chile and even Argentina were a push. Just there was chance it might happen.
