[RWC2023] Japan vs Samoa (28/09/2023)

[IT157]

Yeah I could see that one getting upgraded

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Yeah that's not good

 

[IT157]

Clear and blatant red... I understand giving time for a review but that doesn't need reviewing surely?

Welcome to the bunker review system.

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Clear and blatant red... I understand giving time for a review but that doesn't need reviewing surely?

I was thinking this, I personally think the bunker system if done well is good for the game, but the idea that a referee never again hands out a red card but leaves it to the TMO seems odd to me.

 

[IT157]

I was thinking this, I personally think the bunker system if done well is good for the game, but the idea that a referee never again hands out a red card but leaves it to the TMO seems odd to me.

I have made similar comments.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I was thinking this, I personally think the bunker system if done well is good for the game, but the idea that a referee never again hands out a red card but leaves it to the TMO seems odd to me.

I don't have a problem with it for ones like that. Better than watching Peyper for a few minutes calling up all possible angles and discussing things publicly. Also increases consistency as I imagine decisions are checked with someone central if remotely contentious. Hopefully not the only Kiwi to see red this weekend.

A shame for the game as I wanted to see Samoa let down their hair to chase the result.

 

[Summer Rose]

Problem with the bunker system is who's making the calls, in my opinion. The best, most experienced referees are the ones out in the middle and on the touchlines, so who does that leave in the bunker?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I don't have a problem with it for ones like that. Better than watching Peyper for a few minutes calling up all possible angles and discussing things publicly. Also increases consistency as I imagine decisions are checked with someone central if remotely contentious. Hopefully not the only Kiwi to see red this weekend.

A shame for the game as I wanted to see Samoa let down their hair to chase the result.

Given the treatment of Curry vs literally every other head contact and how much worse and reckless another case has needed to be since to get a red, I'm not so sure.

 

[TopTen2003]

Japans defence and organisation has been excellent and they've done a bit of a clever job on the raw talent of Samoa so far.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

That Japanese fan is meme worthy

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Samoa somehow played easily their best rugby of the game with Lea'liifano at 9 and Danny Toala at 10.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Very clearly came forward off Matsushima

Edit: or 13 even.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Japan have looked so much better today - their game vs Argentina is gonna be mega

 

[IT157]

Japan have looked so much better today - their game vs Argentina is gonna be mega

Or maybe England are just that good

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Problem with the bunker system is who's making the calls, in my opinion. The best, most experienced referees are the ones out in the middle and on the touchlines, so who does that leave in the bunker?

True, but I would trust a slightly inferior ref in the bunker, with all that at their fingertips to make a better decision over 10mins than a better ref under pressure on the pitch to remember all elements of tackle protocol and ensure they are seeing all angles, speeds etc.

it doesn't make it right, but in the NFL the on field umpire doesn't have the ultimate say on instant replay reviews either (if I am reading this right), its a person sitting at a screen in another city.

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[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Japan have looked so much better today - their game vs Argentina is gonna be mega

Yes, a definite step up. Their preparation was terrible with all their red cards in warm ups but they are finally getting some cohesion. I still think they are a fair step below 2019 but from what Argentina have shown so far, we may have a more exciting finale than I expected.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

McFarland has been literally everywhere tonight. Such a freakishly gifted sportsman.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Samoan 18 is doing a Horie tribute with the shorts. Just wait until next summer and we'll all be doing it.

 

[Grizwald]

Feels like Japan should be pushing for a TBP here given the group.

 

[IT157]

Going for the posts was smart by Japan imo.