[RWC2023] Scotland vs Tonga (24/09/2023)

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Genuinely cruel to make Taumeifuna play this many minutes

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I was under the impression it comes down to head to head? Which is good for Scotland as they would need to beat Ireland anyway. And get 4 points more than Ireland from the game

So if all three are on 15 points then there cannot be head to head, right?

But if Scotland beat Ireland and nobody gets BPs in that match, then they are both on 14 points and Ireland are eliminated on head to head vs Scotland. Thats my take.

I think Scotland are finding Tonga have a bit too much abillity and heart to go running the score up on them. Ireland looked great against Tonga and 'only'won by 35 or so.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Also this should be a cautionary tale for anyone thinking of believing a word Wales online says

In fairness to WO I am 100% blaming my Scottish brain for my errors.

 

[AlRums]

If Scotland gets BP wins for the rest of their games and beat Ireland by more than 7 then Ireland are out and Scotland is through

 

[IT157]

Jones should have passed to Graham

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Jones should have passed to Graham

And VDM to Kinghorn. Botch-o-rama

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

So if all three are on 15 points then there cannot be head to head, right?

But if Scotland beat Ireland and nobody gets BPs in that match, then they are both on 14 points and Ireland are eliminated on head to head vs Scotland. Thats my take.

I think Scotland are finding Tonga have a bit too much abillity and heart to go running the score up on them. Ireland looked great against Tonga and 'only'won by 35 or so.

Oh I see what you mean. Yeah not sure what happens if they all get 15, which id just seen as v unlikely

 

[dirty harry]

Oh I see what you mean. Yeah not sure what happens if they all get 15, which id just seen as v unlikely

If they all get 15 it goes on PD... then tries scored, and finally tries conceded I believe

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Well if it did go to points difference those two botched efforts by Scotland could be the difference. Academic really as there must be no way Scotland get 4 tries against Ireland in a neutral venue. Whereas winning by 8 points isn't a complete fantasy, just extremely unlikely.

 

[die_mole]

If Scotland gets BP wins for the rest of their games and beat Ireland by more than 7 then Ireland are out and Scotland is through

Does that include a BP win against Ireland or not?

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Well if it did go to points difference those two botched efforts by Scotland could be the difference. Academic really as there must be no way Scotland get 4 tries against Ireland in a neutral venue. Whereas winning by 8 points isn't a complete fantasy, just extremely unlikely.

If it's anything like last night then "neutral" will be a bit of a stretch

 

[Bluemoon]

That's a straight red. Totally unnecessary.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

That's another red, but based on earlier will be a yellow again

 

[Dean Cooperfield-West]

That's an obvious red! The referee is chickening out of making the correct decision here

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Does that include a BP win against Ireland or not?

Not required against Ireland as long as Ireland don't get a losing BP.

My take anyway, handle with caution.

 

[AlRums]

Does that include a BP win against Ireland or not?

Yes that's why I said Scotland need BP wins for all their games

 

[die_mole]

Not required against Ireland as long as Ireland don't get a losing BP.

My take anyway, handle with caution.

Yes that's why I said Scotland need BP wins for all their games

Wheres's brigantine? This seems up his alley.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

That try probably just about keeps Scotland's wildly hypothetical points difference chances alive.

 

[dirty harry]

I cant really criticise Scotland for this game, theyve got the TBP, they have 38 points, the games been done for the last 20...

But it's been scrappy, error strewn and Scotland have never really controlled it.

C- job done, but needs to I.prove

 

[BenniMarco]

Probably not popular here but many reds are deserved and down to the defensive player, in this instance it does seem like the attacker has to shoulder some share of responsibility he actively dropped his head height and charged into that.

That's what I thought. But it's close.

2nd one was a red 100% though.