Sorry Kenny but I disagree...

Discussion in 'European Champions & Challenge Cup' started by Will, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. Will

    Will Guest

    Kenny Logan, the ex-Scottish international with 70 caps and now Heineken Cup ambassador, has recently come out in the press (The Scotsman) to state that it is his opinion that it would be of benefit to the Scottish Magners League teams to only have one representative in the Heineken Cup.

    What I would do, though, is only allow one Scottish team into the Heineken Cup each year, and put the team that finishes lower in the Magners League into the Amlin Challenge Cup. Every team needs competition and while that might upset Glasgow fans because they were below Edinburgh last season, I think Sean Lineen and the coaches would like it because their need to get better consistency would be helped if the players knew a Heineken Cup place rested on performances across the season.

    Logan states that whilst the Scottish teams have improved over the past few seasons, with Edinburgh finishing second in the Magners behind Munster, and Glasgow winning away in Toulose, he worries that it's a lack of self belief that lets down the Scottish teams on the bigger stage, taken from his experience with Glasgow a number of years ago when away wins were hard to come by. Then however he goes and contradicts himself saying:

    I feel that Edinburgh and Glasgow should be real contenders for quarter-final spots. The Toulouse result and performances against Bath last year made people take notice of Glasgow, and Andy Robinson's presence at Edinburgh meant they were watched more closely and people saw how good they could be.

    Taking the example of Glasgow Warriors, the away win in Toulouse and the away performance against Bath, narrowly missing out on a win, show exactly why both Scottish teams should be represented in the Heineken Cup. Both Edinburgh and Glasgow are now much more competitive and professional outfits, and as such they deserve to be part of Europe's top competition. Both have reasonable chances of reaching the quarter finals this season, and then who knows what can happen in a knock out competition? Both teams might well struggle from inconistency at times, but I don't see how relegating the lower ranked team in the Magners to the Amlin Challenge Cup would and could possibly help.

    The Heineken Cup is where both Glasgow and Edinburgh can play against the best in Europe, learn from that experience, and push forward. It's not as if they are whipping boys with no chance, as recent history and form have proven. This experience can also only surely help the Scottish national team, with their players based in Scotland putting themselves against some of the world's best players in club rugby.

    Sorry Kenny, but I really can't see your point in this article you have written. There's no vaild point made by yourself, and you yourself contradict yourself in your own argument. I imagine it might have been near deadline time to get the article in and you couldn't think of what to write.....
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  3. bristol-iain

    bristol-iain Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Will @ Oct 6 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    That jest seems like a mahoosive contradiction. So he's calling for one team to compete when two sides can make quarter-final places.
  4. Totally disagree with Kenny <_<

    Both teams are good enough to be at this level and both threatened over past few seasons to make break-through.

    And how'd it benefit Glasgow/Edinburgh beating Connacht etc in such a low standard competition :eek:
    Scotland need both teams at highest level for players to improve and make national team stronger
  5. gingergenius

    gingergenius Guest

    Kenny Logan's ONLY achievement in life is bagging his wife. He was a **** player, a **** kicker and is now a **** pundit.
  6. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Oct 6 2009, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Still what a prize to bag :bana:
  7. bristol-iain

    bristol-iain Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (munstermuffin @ Oct 6 2009, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Still what a prize to bag :bana:

    Don't you mean :bananasex:

  8. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bristol-iain @ Oct 6 2009, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Still what a prize to bag :bana:

    Don't you mean :bananasex:


    But he still a :toss: ................ :lol:
  9. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    Shouldn't worry too much about Kenny Logan... He often doesn't know what he's writing...
  10. Juan VdS

    Juan VdS Guest

    Good lord... Why is this chap even speaking?! Restricting the number of Scottish teams?! Both Glasgow and Edimburgh are perfectly capable of beating any other side if they are on song. And even if they weren't... why would anybody close the door for them?

    Mr Logan:

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