SuperRugby: Hurricanes v Sharks. 06/04/2012

[big ginger 8]

Can anyone tell me why the commentators called the scrap a "Donnybrook"? I presume it wasn't after the stadium or area in Dublin...

 

[Larksea]

I'm impressed with how smart the canes play at times, when the ey got that pen I thought - with a few min left in the half they just need to secure a front foot ball and get it to Taylor and they will score and that's exactly what they did. Savea is 100x the player he was last year. It's awesome to see him reaching his potential.

 

[Larksea]

Hmm by the sounds of it, I might give the replay a miss. Here's hoping for dramatic comeback.

Edit: 25-3.....will have to be comeback of all comebacks.

sure as heck, the canes have the scoreboard not it's time to see if they have learned from last week. The one advantage they have is that they learned their lesson last weekend and surely wont blow a massive lead again... but it could happen no doubt

 

[TNT88]

wohoo, tipped this. Wish I had the balls to bet on it though.

Can never discount the shorks though, especially after Canes performance last week.

 

[William18]

Can anyone tell me why the commentators called the scrap a "Donnybrook"? I presume it wasn't after the stadium or area in Dublin...

It's named after the Donnybrook Fair.

 

[Draggs]

Try! JP Pietersen.
We had a pen to make it 25-6, just stepped out then.
Nice little break from Whitehead just a few phases earlier.
25-13.

Hurricanes try... Have to be honest, I didn't think Smith had control. That's it then.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Potential try to the Hurricanes - arguments both way.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

And it's given! Personally, I thought it was a try, but you could argue Conrad Smith lost control...

 

[donmcdazzle]

Two dodgy tmo calls for the canes

 

[William18]

No way that looked like a try to me. Clear space between hand and ball.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

I didn't see any space. The only argument against would be that he didn't 'force' it down. It definitely touched the ground whilst it was touching his hand.

 

[Draggs]

And once more, penalty conceded on the 5m.
Michalak doing stupid inside passes to the prop.

@Invictus. I'll take another look, you could be right.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

The first one is a bit more contentious - the referee implied he had seen a try, but wasn't sure what happened before the try was scored, thus asking for a reason not to award a try. From the videos it doesn't look like a try was scored, but there was no error from the Hurricanes... End of the day, we don't know what the referee saw.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Hurricanes get a great individual try from Bateman, though looks like the ruck before hand could've been a penalty to the Sharks, went the way of the Canes...

 

[TNT88]

There is no debate, commentators just don't know the laws. 'Try' was the only decision the TMO could make.

There are two ways a player can ground the ball:

22.1(a) Player touches the ground with the ball. A player grounds the ball by holding the ball and touching the ground with it, in in-goal. ‘Holding’ means holding in the hand or hands, or in the arm or arms. No downward pressure is required.

...

 

[Draggs]

Try Bateman. Match over.
Where to go from here?

I don't like the two questions for the TMO. Just yes or no I say. Too influential depending on call. If he asked yes/no, it would be no try (with regards to the first TMO call today).

 

[William18]

Brilliant from Bateman!!!!

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Yep, my argument was that if the ball is in goal and you touch it (without having control), it's still a try - that's what that rule is consistent with too.

 

[William18]

There is no debate, commentators just don't know the laws. 'Try' was the only decision the TMO could make.

I'll stand corrected. A try under those rules.

 

[Draggs]

Yep, my argument was that if the ball is in goal and you touch it (without having control), it's still a try - that's what that rule is consistent with too.

I agree. Looks like Smith did score, just about. Try is a try.
We look rudderless. Michalak off, Bosman on.