Transfers rumours

LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan) · May 9, 2018

will311293 said:
haha, I know he's old but not sure he's senile enough to switch from sunny france and that UBER large salary and bonus scheme of his.

Carter is leaving Racing for Japan next season.

Not Mike Brown's Sock · May 9, 2018

will311293 said:
haha, I know he's old but not sure he's senile enough to switch from sunny france and that UBER large salary and bonus scheme of his.

Hes leaving france for Japan anyway

will311293 · May 9, 2018

Tigs Man said:
Carter is leaving Racing for Japan next season.

ahh well ... I did not know that..... well suppose there will still be a large salary involved haha

munstermuffin · May 9, 2018

Tigs Man said:
And i'm trying to get kate beckinsale.....

Well you might have more luck. Butbyeah rumours are they are trying to buy out Japanese but and well their 10 problem is making them do desperate things. Probably all BS

Groundhog · May 9, 2018

Paragons of rugby journalism Rugbypass are reporting that Carberry could be going to Munster with Keatley headed to Ulster. That's right guys, Rugbypass are trying to report things, even if it is 99% complete and utter logic defying crap they pulled from a fan forum.

ratsapprentice · May 9, 2018

TRF_Olyy said:
I disagree.
I've always known it as a player who flits from club to club, the first I ever saw someone use it to mean an average player was on here and not that long ago

It doesn't matter what you think. /attitudeera

It has a very specific meaning. It's someone who has learned their trade fully, but is not a master. It doesn't mean average.

Lots of journeymen travel between clubs, but that's incidental.

Big_Grumper · May 9, 2018

ratsapprentice said:
That doesn't mean what I think you think it means...

Explain.

ratsapprentice · May 9, 2018

Big_Grumper said:
Explain.

A journeyman is a skilled worker who has successfully completed an official apprenticeship qualification in a building trade or craft. Journeymen are considered competent and authorized to work in that field as a fully-qualified employee. They earn their licence by education, supervised experience and examination.[1] Although journeymen have completed a trade certificate and allowed to work as employees, they may not yet work as self-employed master craftsmen.[2]

The term was originally used in the medieval trade guilds. Journeymen were paid each day. The word "journey" is derived from journée, meaning "day" in French.

It's still correct to say all of the English teams feature numerous journeymen. But not for the reason you stated.

Big_Grumper · May 9, 2018

I know exactly what I was trying to say. In sporting context it describes an able player who has represented a number of clubs without ever achieving his or her full potential. The word "average" never entered my thoughts or words.

"Journeyman

A professional athlete whose been around one's sport for a long time, but has been on many teams for a short period of time. In Boxing, a journeyman has fought many times, but has had few opportunities to win a ***le.

A good example of a journeyman is Paul Bako. A MLB catcher who was on 11 teams in his 12 year career."

ratsapprentice · May 9, 2018

Lots of people say "literally" when things aren't literal.
Lots of people say journeyman, when they mean something more akin to mercenary.

It's a misunderstanding to think that they are journeymen because they have played for lots of teams... they've played for lots of teams because they are journeymen.

Not Mike Brown's Sock · May 9, 2018

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ratsapprentice said:
Lots of people say "literally" when things aren't literal.
Lots of people say journeyman, when they mean something more akin to mercenary.

It's a misunderstanding to think that they are journeymen because they have played for lots of teams... they've played for lots of teams because they are journeymen.

Sorry... but it's like saying you can't call a sporting scout a scout because they dont go behind enemy lines or something... The sporting defiintion is obvs different

Big_Grumper · May 9, 2018

ratsapprentice said:
It's a misunderstanding to think that they are journeymen because they have played for lots of teams... they've played for lots of teams because they are journeymen.

You're reading more into this than you need to and I have no idea why we're debating it. My use of the phrase "journeymen" simply describes the nomadic nature of some players. Your final sentence suggests the same.

LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan) · May 9, 2018

Groundhog said:
Paragons of rugby journalism Rugbypass are reporting that Carberry could be going to Munster with Keatley headed to Ulster. That's right guys, Rugbypass are trying to report things, even if it is 99% complete and utter logic defying crap they pulled from a fan forum.

Tigs Man exclusive hearing reports that Carberry is going to Munster, Keatley to Ulster and Owen Farrell is moving to Leinster in hopes of using a sevens loophole to play for Ireland.

BPM · May 9, 2018

will311293 said:
Its almost Impressive how many they have haha, at least we only really steal senior players from Sale...

Interestingly enough Wasps have also lost/let leave a fair few quality players

Out
Haskell
Cips ,
Symons
Thompson
Moore
Eastmond
Macken
Armitage
Paul Doran Jones

In
Shields
Liam Sops

Dai has already suggested he wants a squad of 39-40 players, so we need 11 players roughly.

Been linked to a fair few players, Brookes, Matthews, Carr returning, Joe Atkinson (London Scottish), Tim Cardell (Nottingham) Michael Le Bourgeois (Bedford), Ben Morris (Nottingham) , Ross Neal (London Scottish), Alex Goble (Nottingham), Billy Searle (Bristol)...

Sounds like we are changing things up and trying to target our next Bassett/Rieder/Thompson etc.

On a different note ... going to be fascinating to see the shake up at Northampton etc.

If Dai Young wants a squad of 39-40 and those rumours are true, nearly 20% of the squad will have been playing in the Championship this season. That seems high for a side chasing top spot.

For the rest, I'd say the new signings are at least on a par, if not better than those leaving. A fit, motivated Brookes could be a significant upgrade on Moore for example. Arguably, Rowlands has already replaced Symons. Eastmond will need replacing though.

Presumably they will also promote a couple from the academy too - Tom Willis?

Big_Grumper · May 10, 2018

Rumours abound that Cips might be at Castle Grim next season. He's been spotted at Hartpury College this week (Glaws's training ground) talking to Ackers.

will311293 · May 10, 2018

BPM said:
If Dai Young wants a squad of 39-40 and those rumours are true, nearly 20% of the squad will have been playing in the Championship this season. That seems high for a side chasing top spot.

For the rest, I'd say the new signings are at least on a par, if not better than those leaving. A fit, motivated Brookes could be a significant upgrade on Moore for example. Arguably, Rowlands has already replaced Symons. Eastmond will need replacing though.

Presumably they will also promote a couple from the academy too - Tom Willis?

Yes very true, as promising as those championship boys are and the success we have with Bassett/Thompson/Rieder etc. but its a big call if true. Tom Willis will most likely by included within the squad next season.

will311293 · May 10, 2018

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/42710938

Cokanasiga finally moves to Bath... London Irish to merge with Bath?

ratsapprentice · May 11, 2018

Charlie Walker --> Wasps

Not Mike Brown's Sock · May 11, 2018

ratsapprentice said:
Charlie Walker --> Wasps

Pease no... Please, im begging

ratsapprentice · May 11, 2018

I like Charlie, but you've got a decent number of wingers... he might be 3rd choice at best if Ibitoye, Earle and Micalcius play well.

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