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[dirty harry]

Having watched it, he comes up with some extremely valid reasons as why the "official" version, which is very, very light on details, is questionable.

Most of his questions were about the shot itself and how the alleged weapon and angle don't line up with physics.

It would probably be enough to cause reasonable doubt in court and there is more to come.

It should be noted that Martenson has PhD from Duke university in Pathology/Toxicology.

I didnt get a chance to get around to it, spent the vast majority of my night in police cells lol, but we'll see if I can carve out an hour at some point.

Is it worth the watch?

 

[AlRums]

I didnt get a chance to get around to it, spent the vast majority of my night in police cells lol, but we'll see if I can carve out an hour at some point.

Is it worth the watch?

Yes, if you want a reasoned view.

There's not conspiracy theories per se, but some have latched on as if they are.

He's heavy on medical anatomy, geometry and ballistics but they're worth listening to with an open mind.

Bear in mind the authorities have been quite meagre with detail and nothing from the autopsy report has been released.

He states his opinions and classes them with high, medium and low confidence.

Check the followup video as well, there is one question he poses re a shadow of someone running (pointed out by someone else) and he acknowledges that experts can explain that away.

His analysis of the shot and the "alleged" weapon used in very comprehensive which is why I think reasonable doubt can be found.

One thing I did notice is where the shooters perch is ascertained to have been, the line to target was extremely marginal since another building may have obscured the shooter. But we don't see the elevations from that point, just the angle.

 

[AlRums]

Pam Bondi Has A Full On Meltdown Over Simple Questions About Trump

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee let the attorney general run all over lawmakers.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[AlRums]

Republicans post fake image of Oregon protest – using photos of South America

A federal judge had blocked Trump’s request to deploy California national guard to Portland

www.theguardian.com

They're not even subtle about making things up.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Disclaimer, I havnt watched this yet.

This is doing the rounds currently apparently, a colleague sent it to me, and she and another is raving about this guy, as is the comment section so massive red flag straight off the bat...

I stopped listening when he said “there’s not a chance in hell Tyler could’ve taken the kill shot” sounds like conspiracy ******** to me. Hasn’t he confessed?

 

[dirty harry]

I stopped listening when he said "there's not a chance in hell Tyler could've taken the kill shot" sounds like conspiracy ******** to me. Hasn't he confessed?

I still havnt had a chance, ive been in custody suite and court since stupid o clock!

My plan is to pour a whiskey after the kids are in bed, sit in the hammock and watch.

I am partial to a conspiracy theory mind, it might be entertaining if nothing else, @AlRums seems to have given it some time, i find that positive

 

[Welsh Exile]

I still havnt had a chance, ive been in custody suite and court since stupid o clock!

My plan is to pour a whiskey after the kids are in bed, sit in the hammock and watch.

I am partial to a conspiracy theory mind, it might be entertaining if nothing else, @AlRums seems to have given it some time, i find that positive

I wouldn’t bother. 5 seconds is all you need.

 

[dirty harry]

I wouldn't bother. 5 seconds is all you need.

What was so egregious? The fact he said the shooter couldn't have taken the shot?

Im still baffled by the old guy who immediately after hearing a shot pulling his pants down, yelling I did it and then being found with child porn on his IT, and was previously arrested for threatening the Boston marathon with bombs, at a protest and was at Koby Bryan's trial years ago...

 

[Welsh Exile]

What was so egregious? The fact he said the shooter couldn't have taken the shot?

Im still baffled by the old guy who immediately after hearing a shot pulling his pants down, yelling I did it and then being found with child porn on his IT, and was previously arrested for threatening the Boston marathon with bombs, at a protest and was at Koby Bryan's trial years ago...

He said, I think, "no way in hell" which didn't sound very scientific to me.

 

[AlRums]

He said, I think, "no way in hell" which didn't sound very scientific to me.

Nothing like an open mind then?

 

[Welsh Exile]

Nothing like an open mind then?

I try to keep an open mind but not so open my brain falls out.

Ironically it’s him that’s not keeping an open mind by saying “no way in hell” but look, if it turns out later he’s spot on then maybe I’ll trust my gut less.

 

[dirty harry]

I try to keep an open mind but not so open my brain falls out.

Ironically it's him that's not keeping an open mind by saying "no way in hell" but look, if it turns out later he's spot on then maybe I'll trust my gut less.

Jees thats harsh, discounting him for using a popular phrase, no way in hell youd catch me doing that hahahaha

 

[dirty harry]

Edit wrong thread

 

[AlRums]

I try to keep an open mind but not so open my brain falls out.

Ironically it's him that's not keeping an open mind by saying "no way in hell" but look, if it turns out later he's spot on then maybe I'll trust my gut less.

Did you watch further to him qualifying that remark?

If not then your opinion is worthless.

If you did and still disagree then fair enough.

To me, I found that he put forward enough doubt to seriously question the "alleged" shooter.

He also did state quite clearly that he would explain how he got to that conclusion, which he then did, all within the first 25 seconds. But hey dismiss it on the first 5 seconds.

His biggest argument was that the bullet from a 30-06 at that range and angles could not have been responsible the way it has been said. The bullet would have passed through Kirk's neck and wouldn't have been deflected downwards the way it was,but would have had too much power.

As to a confession, didn't someone else claim he did it immediately after the event?

 

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[dirty harry]

This is a prime case of short term thinking, granted its funny, and will titilate his base, but hes forgetting that Trump will be gone very soon, and his reputation and persona will be tarnished for much longer.

 

[dirty harry]

More context needed...

 

[Saintjay]

Did you watch further to him qualifying that remark?

If not then your opinion is worthless.

If you did and still disagree then fair enough.

To me, I found that he put forward enough doubt to seriously question the "alleged" shooter.

He also did state quite clearly that he would explain how he got to that conclusion, which he then did, all within the first 25 seconds. But hey dismiss it on the first 5 seconds.

His biggest argument was that the bullet from a 30-06 at that range and angles could not have been responsible the way it has been said. The bullet would have passed through Kirk's neck and wouldn't have been deflected downwards the way it was,but would have had too much power.

As to a confession, didn't someone else claim he did it immediately after the event?

Without access to the weapon, ballistics, forensics and medical evidence. The fact bullets do weird things once they hit something. He's just guessing.

 

[AlRums]

Without access to the weapon, ballistics, forensics and medical evidence. The fact bullets do weird things once they hit something. He's just guessing.

Yes, but with reasoned arguments.

Don't forget he's got a PhD in Pathology.

I'm not remotely claiming he's right, just that he's so far created reasonable doubt.

Why have the authorities been so silent and secretive?