My Tri-Nations teams:
SA-NZ-AUS
1. CJ Van Der Linde - Tony Woodcock - Ben Robinson
2. Gary Botha - Keven Mealamu - Tatafu Polota-Nau
3. BJ Botha - Ben Franks - Ben Alexander
4. Andries Bekker - Brad Thorn - Dean Mumm
5. Victor Matfield - Tom Donnely - Nathan Sharpe
6. Schalk Burger - Victor Vito - Rocky Elsom
7. Francois Louw - Richie McCaw - Phil Waugh
8. Pierre Spies - Kieran Reid (I guess) - David Pockock
9. Sarel Pretorious (du Preez injury a huge blow) - Andy Ellis Way better then Weepu or Cowan - Will Genia
10. Morne Steyn - Dan Carter - Quade Cooper
11. Bryan Habana - Sivivatu - Drew Mitchell
12. Jean de Villiers - Conrad Smith I know he plays 13. - Matt Giteau
13. Jaques Fourie - Rene Ranger That's why I put Smith at 12 - Digby Ioane
14. Gerhard van den Heever - Joe Rockococo - Peter Hynes
15. Frans Steyn - Cory Jane - Adam Ashley-Cooper
16. Schalk Brits - Corey Flynn I think he is so under-rated - Stephen Moore
17. John Smit - Owen Franks - Salise Ma'afu
18. Danie Rossouw - Chris Jack - Mark Chisholm
19. Ryan Kankowski - Jerome Kaino - Stephen Hoiles
20. Michael Claasens - Piri Weepu - Luke Burgess
21. Butch James - Luke McCalister (Only because Donald and Delany are injured) - Ryan Cross
22. Wynand Olivier - Israel Dagg - James O'Connor
Andy Ellis? he would be among the worst All Blacks of the past 10 years in my opinion.
Conrad Smith is one of the only constant performers, makes no sense at all to move him.
Chris Jack has done nothing to prove he isnt over the hill.
Owen Franks is the superstar, Ben Franks is just solid.
Yeah, I mean I don't know how you can't rate the guy. He is underrated in my opinion. It's not he survives off opinions. I suggest you try and find a mistake in his game next time you watch him. Ellis was the worse NZ halfback in the S14 (bar perhaps Leonard), and even was shown up by his replacement.
Find me something special in his game next time you watch him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnbc4wAddKI
For a start, however I can easily find things great about his game in any game I watch with him. He never misses tackles, he sets up most of the Hurricanes tries. He has great timing etc. It is silly to say he is unspecial or ordanary as if he was that poor, I'm pretty certain he wouldn't start as many tests as he does, especially as he starts above Toeava and Kahui. In fact he was probably the best All Black during the end of year tour, and was player of the match against France.
Well all I know is that Andy Ellis really played well this year in the s14.
Drat, I got some solid backup right until you said, "that old guy something O'Driscoll", probably one of the most famous rugby players in the game. I think you're looking for Brian O'Driscoll.Whats with the hating on Conrad Smith. He'll keep the number 13 jersey this season easy. Not a flashy player but definately a solid performer. Watch him school that old guy something O'Driscoll this weekend 'rugbywriter', if that is your real name.