[RWC2023] France vs Uruguay (14/09/2023)

[IT157]

The bunker system is really backfiring so far.

Question: if a red is given can the bunker system downgrade to a yellow?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Those replays don't show any mitigation at all - the 9s head height doesn't change from that first tackle, it's consistent from initial contact upto the head shot

 

[Which Tyler]

Seeing more replays, still not seeing the mitigation that doesn't apply

 

[Becca]

The mitigation is that it was a French card.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

The tackled player doesn’t drop his height at all. Why do the commentators keep saying that?

The tackled player stays the same height when he gets shouldered to the head ffs.

This World Cup has been a joke so far in regards to head contact. It’s only going to push more and more people away from rugby.

 

[saulan]

ITV panel being terrible again. Pronouncing Hastoy’s name incorrectly twice in 40 seconds while describing his try. This is your job. At the very least get the names right.

 

[Which Tyler]

Also, and FTR, I'm not seeing any conspiracy in the disallowed try.
Any identical situation with different teams really ought to be disallowed.
Offside player takes a defender out, try is scored through that gap, that should disallowed 90 times out of 100 (with the other 10 being human error)

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

No attempt to wrap, straight up shoulder charge to the head. This is ******* ridiculous. You know England are going to get yet another red for so 50/50 now don't you?

 

[Ddanno]

The tackled player doesn’t drop his height at all. Why do the commentators keep saying that?

Because ITV seem to have scoured the globe for the most clueless, boring* former players they can find.


*Like, reeeeeaaaaaally ******* boring!

 

[Groundhog]

There was for me no mitigation to take that down from a red. In theory I quite like the bunker system but it offers TMOs the opportunity to weasel out of the correct decision. The approach almost seems to be "I need to see something on top of what the ref has seen in the pitch to upgrade" when that's absolutely not in the spirit of the system.

 

[IT157]

There was for me no mitigation to take that down from a red. In theory I quite like the bunker system but it offers TMOs the opportunity to weasel out of the correct decision. The approach almost seems to be "I need to see something on top of what the ref has seen in the pitch to upgrade" when that's absolutely not in the spirit of the system.

my theory is a ref more likely to give a yellow so they don't have the pressure to make a clear decision and leave it to the bunker instead.

 

[Cruz_del_Sur]

I could pretend i'm shocked, but after watching Nigel say on WR's youtube channel that the TMO found no evidence of head contact in Jesse Kriels' tackle and therefore the decision to play-on was reasonable, well, let's just say it's gonna take a LOT to surprise me. The bar is a tad high i'm afraid.

 

[Groundhog]

my theory is a ref more likely to give a yellow so they don't have the pressure to make a clear decision and leave it to the bunker instead.

Well to be fair that's very much how it SHOULD be used imo. TMO should have the stones to upgrade the card though

 

[spursincornwall]

South America, an area World Rugby should focus it development over the next four years. A world cup should also be held in South America.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

I am not prepared for the **** that’s going to go down if Taofifenua scores

 

[Which Tyler]

my theory is a ref more likely to give a yellow so they don't have the pressure to make a clear decision and leave it to the bunker instead.

That's not really a theory, it's precisely the design.

 

[IT157]

Well to be fair that's very much how it SHOULD be used imo. TMO should have the stones to upgrade the card though

Which would be fine if the bunker was competent. If anything it seems to be making things worse.

 

[Which Tyler]

Well yes, competence does seem to be lacking

 

[IT157]

That's not really a theory, it's precisely the design.

Okay. So if the ref gave a red, the bunker couldn't downgrade to a yellow correct?

 

[Ddanno]

That's not really a theory, it's precisely the design.

Yeah it's meant to be yellow from the ref, nothing more, and the bumker takes from there as I understand it?