Premiership Cup 23/24

[Becca]

Blimey

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Was a decent looking falcons team

 

[Becca]

Well that’s a very decent score.

 

[Scotty]

Was a decent looking falcons team

Went looking thinking they just put all the kids out when i saw the score. That is a very solid win for Tigers.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

OHC sitting Radwan downnnnn



Excited about OHC been a while since Tigers had an out and out speedster (prob Varndell since I feel Veainu is more elusive than speedster)

Atkinson running the show but Shillcock will prob be first choice kicker

 

[Rinkadink]

Is anyone actually enjoying this competition?

How do we feel about it acting as compensation for missing regular premiership fixtures as allegedly the top championship clubs aren't good enough to be promoted?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'd be enjoying it more if there were more on TV and it weren't clashing with the RWC, tbh
I'm keeping up with the results/watching highlights but not half as interested as I would be usually

I do hope they keep the Champ clubs in the prem cup moving forward, rather than just as a one off, though

as allegedly the top championship clubs aren't good enough to be promoted?

Don't think anyone's ever really said that as a reason, have they?
It's ground and money issues that have prevented clubs being promoted not skill level

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Yeh all the games on tv have zero interest for me
Would rather seen more Championship v Prem games televised

 

[Quel Carreleur]

Bath vs Exeter
Saturday, 2.00

Bath Rugby XV:
15 Tom de Glanville
14 Joe Cokanasiga
13 Max Ojomoh
12 Will Butt
11 Will Muir
10 Piers Francis
09 Louis Schreuder

1 Juan Schoeman
2 Niall Annett
3 Johannes Jonker
4 Ted Hill
5 Charlie Ewels
6 Miles Reid (c)
7 Chris Cloete
8 Alfie Barbeary

Replacements: 16 Tom Dunn, 17 Beno Obano, 18 Thomas du Toit, 19 Fergus Lee-Warner, 20 Sam Underhill, 21 Ben Spencer, 22 Orlando Bailey, 23 Jaco Coetzee

Meanwhile, McConnochie is babysitting the kids up in Edinburgh for a match (against a much stronger looking Embra side), where Sam Harris starts at FH, and Billy Sela is (I think) due to make his debut.
And no, I've no idea why we're still seeing Francis at FH, or why we insist on a 6:2 bench, with the backrow in the 23 shirt!

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Bath vs Exeter
Saturday, 2.00

Bath Rugby XV:
15 Tom de Glanville
14 Joe Cokanasiga
13 Max Ojomoh
12 Will Butt
11 Will Muir
10 Piers Francis
09 Louis Schreuder

1 Juan Schoeman
2 Niall Annett
3 Johannes Jonker
4 Ted Hill
5 Charlie Ewels
6 Miles Reid (c)
7 Chris Cloete
8 Alfie Barbeary

Replacements: 16 Tom Dunn, 17 Beno Obano, 18 Thomas du Toit, 19 Fergus Lee-Warner, 20 Sam Underhill, 21 Ben Spencer, 22 Orlando Bailey, 23 Jaco Coetzee

Meanwhile, McConnochie is babysitting the kids up in Edinburgh for a match (against a much stronger looking Embra side), where Sam Harris starts at FH, and Billy Sela is (I think) due to make his debut.
And no, I've no idea why we're still seeing Francis at FH, or why we insist on a 6:2 bench, with the backrow in the 23 shirt!

Ted Hill at lock? You got some injuries there?

 

[Quel Carreleur]

Ted Hill at lock? You got some injuries there?

Not to my knowledge, probably just a run out during pre-srason to see what he's like there now.

We've another team out at Edinburgh though, so it might be injury related

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

is Rusi Tuima viewed as a lock now for Chiefs?

 

[Geordie]

The kids rolled out for this one..

Newcastle Falcons v Caldy (Sunday, 2.15pm, Kingston Park)

15 Louis Brown, 14 Zach Kerr, 13 Oliver Spencer, 12 Cameron Hutchison, 11 Iwan Stephens, 10 Louie Johnson, 9 Ben Douglas; 1 Adam Brocklebank, 2 Ollie Fletcher, 3 Mark Tampin, 4 John Kelly, 5 Kiran McDonald, 6 Marcus Tiffen, 7 Josh Bainbridge, 8 Sam Cross (captain).

Replacements: 16 Michael van Vuuren, 17 Mark Dormer, 18 Sam Clark, 19 Finn Baker, 20 Ollie Leatherbarrow, 21 Max Pepper, 22 Josh Thomas, 23 George Wacokecoke

 

[TRF_Olyy]

64-0 vs Ampthill

Doesn't really say anything about the season to come, but minutes in the legs and good to get some kicking into RdP, who has apparently been suffering with a leg injury all of the off/pre-season

 

[Scotty]

is Rusi Tuima viewed as a lock now for Chiefs?

Seems that way, was talking briefly about this on the Chiefs thread. Hope it goes well as he could be a good 'THL'(if thats a thing). By all accounts he's playing well.

Honestly we do have a few promising back rows coming through and when have chiefs ever cared about positions. Was Ewers a 6 ot Simmonds an 8 or Vermeulen a 7 for that matter. Tshiunza will prob fill the lock role in the lineout


Also looking at the teams this will be a very good test for this Chiefs team as Bath have gone full strength. See how well the rebuild is going.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

Bath 34 - 14 Exeter.

Sounds like Bath secured the TBP before half time, then took foot off the gas.

Even Prem Vs Prem I don't like to see many 1st XV players from either team.

 

[Deleted member 53362]

Cov lost it in the final minutes again

 

[Becca]

Saints 82
Doncaster 12

 

[Scotty]

Bath 34 - 14 Exeter.

Sounds like Bath secured the TBP before half time, then took foot off the gas.

Even Prem Vs Prem I don't like to see many 1st XV players from either team.

From watching the Highlights(only) it seems alot of Chiefs issues were defensive positioning and getting back in defensive shape quick enough. Because of these issues they were getting caught out way to easy, no issue with physicality but it doesnt matter if you get beat by a simple offload.

I didnt see anything on the attack really so cant comment.

 

[Quel Carreleur]

Ted Hill at lock? You got some injuries there?

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/sport/other-sport/bath-rugby-injury-latest-ahead-8822982
Apparently, yes.
Also says some good things about Ewan Richards

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Mercer clearly on a bit of a mission.

 

[Seeker]

Alright Cherry & White!

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

The thing is everyone’s gonna look at this game and go “oh silly Steve for not picking Mercer.”

But he hasn’t been performing like this for Gloucester before today. It’s all well and good performing once you’ve had a firecracker shoved up your ass but he should have been performing like this anyway.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

But he hasn't been performing like this for Gloucester before today.

He was before his injury, and has been getting better every game since injury, tbf

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Yeah last season smashing the top 14 seems to be forgotten as well.

 

[BPM]

I don't want to take the shine off a good performance, but let's be honest ripping up against a second string Chiefs side in the Premiership Cup isn't really making that much of a statement.

It was Mercer who said he was 'done with England for now' not vice versa. When a player acts like that, he's hardly asking to be picked.

 

[West Country Wail]

Frustrating watch for a Chiefs fan. Not existent in the first half. Cairns normally so quick at the ruck bordering on ponderous. A reluctance to kick for points of old with full knowledge we can't play like we used to and get held up countless times - maddening.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

but let's be honest ripping up against a second string Chiefs side in the Premiership Cup isn't really making that much of a statement.

Barring international callups that's as strong as chiefs can put out - fair enough Chiefs have more international callups than Gloucester, but Gloucester have also been guff all season and Chiefs are flying

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I don't want to take the shine off a good performance, but let's be honest ripping up against a second string Chiefs side in the Premiership Cup isn't really making that much of a statement.

It was Mercer who said he was 'done with England for now' not vice versa. When a player acts like that, he's hardly asking to be picked.

When I read the interview it didn’t come across like that. More that he was focussing on club rugby now as England didn’t want him at the moment.

Worth a read as the headline warped what he said as they always do.

The media are scum.

 

[BPM]

The media are scum. I agree with you there. However, IMO, Mercer came across as petulant and entitled. I understand his disappointment, but when you say you are ‘done with England’, you can’t really expect to be in the picture.

When the 6N squad was announced, Mercer was probably the 3rd best performing 8 across the season behind Dombrandt and Barbeary. When you also consider that Earl is an 8 for England and he man in possession, I really don’t think not selecting him was particularly controversial. Personally, I would have called up Mercer ahead of CCS, but so far the latter has been one of the finds of the tournament for England and Earl is playing well at 8 so it’s worked out well.

For the A squad, I expect Barbeary is the player they want to look at and Mercer’s reaction to not being selected for the senior squad doesn’t suggest he’d graciously accept being included for the As.