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[McTallshort]

The thing that strikes me, is that it's not like I'm asking some deep question or anything. It's not like the question "why do you think Trump lost in 2020?" Is at odds with his view or anything, well, not really. I don't know why he can't just say Covid or some other reason. I know he said Trump polled well on covid (though there's data to suggest this is not the case) but I even put in my original post that trumps handling of it was bad or the perception of it was bad so gave him an out where he could say "look, clearly Covid was a monumental thing and even though Trump handled it well he got crucified in the press and that led lots of people to vote for Biden" it's not hard and it's not even giving any credit to the Dems or taking anything away from Trump. His mail in voter response was just weird in my opinion. Well, weird for someone who says he doesn't like Trump.

What is weird is you going round and round in circles with hoping for a different outcome

 

[Welsh Exile]

What is weird is you going round and round in circles with hoping for a different outcome

I always tell my kids:

Persistence beats resistance.

But then I should probably stop

 

[McTallshort]

I always tell my kids:

Persistence beats resistance.

But then I should probably stop

I always tell mine;

Don't flog a dead horse

 

[Ddanno]

I always tell mine;

Don't flog a dead horse

The horse is just mince and glue at this point

 

[AlRums]

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Harry already drafting his complaint to ofcom

 

[BrokenWing]

The horse is just mince and glue at this point

The old “Tesco lasagne”

 

[TommiG88]

yes, and i can explain to you why. Shouting fire in a cinema has a very realistic chance of physically injuring third parties. Directly.

Calling me a "******* argie" or 'third world scum" (hate crimes by the definition you posted), does not. I want people to be able to call me that. Let me say it again. I want people to have the right to tell me those things. In my face, on social media, on tv shows. I want them to have that right.
I can chose to disregard or why not, not even listen at all. The line in the sand is clear and practical: when you go from words to actions.

If i'm being honest, i have an issue, a big one, with your use of the term "abuse". Have you ever talked to abused kids or women? I have. They all, 100%, had no options. They couldn't disregard, look the other way or chose not to listen. Your use diminishes the value of the term. It trivializes it. It puts them in the same bag as people who felt offended by a word.
Verbal abuse... **** that. I'd much rather stick to the old dictionary definition of the term: physical maltreatment (merriam webster). That's why we ended up with a generation of people who label everything they find inconvenient as violence: political violence when someone votes against their preferences, verbal violence when they dislike what other people say, economic violence when they cant buy what they wont (but still have enough money for 2k's worth of tattoos!). Anything anyone does that they dislike? Violence.
No.

But in the spirit of candidness, if you give me a specific example i am more than happy to answer on whether i'd be fine with it or not. And why.

I won’t entertain your opinion against mine. We differ, and that’s fine.

 

[McTallshort]

 

[dirty harry]

I don't know much about Hasan Piker but can you show me some clips/quotes of him calling for the death of politicians. The little I know about him it wouldn't surprise me if he did so not doubting you just curious really. I know he apparently said America deserved 9/11 or something along those lines.

He told people if they cared about medical fraud they should go kill Rick Scott.

He praised the guy who took Crenshaws eye.

Just off the top of my head

 

[ChicagoKid]

The left fücked around, and now all the people with guns are letting them find out.

 

[Saintjay]

The left fücked around, and now all the people with guns are letting them find out.

Ooh there well 'ard

 

[McTallshort]

The left fücked around, and now all the people with guns are letting them find out.

More school shootings?

 

[dirty harry]

When your response to the question, why did Trump lose in 2020? is "mail in voting", can you clarify that more? Why did more people turn out to vote for Biden, why was he more popular than Trump that year? What were the reasons. That's what I'm asking.

More people didnt turn out at all, more people voted...

Look at the numbers, steady increases in voting numbers each cycle, the odd maintaining numbers, then a monster increase for the most popular president of all time.

 

[McTallshort]

The old "Tesco lasagne"

Heard the cheese they put on that was maskapony

 

[dirty harry]

Do you need to ask? He's repeating the oft-disproven kool-aid lies, stuff like cemeteries voting, districts with 110% voting etc.
There is literally no reasoning with those arguments, as facts and evidence simply don't make a dent.

Hahahaha your hysteria makes absolutely devoid of humour lol

 

[dirty harry]

95% registered voter turnout as well. Can't seem to verify that claim either.

I'm sure Harry has said at one point that he doesn't believe the 2020 election was rigged so just curious why he thought Trump lost that one.

Ifni remember correctly, it was the highest turnout US election ever? They usually average 56% turnout and 85% registered voter turnout...

2020 saw 66% turnout and 95% registered voter turnout.

Numbers off the top of my head, dont quote me.

I think i read Pew research studies but I may be wrong it could have been the APP.

 

[dirty harry]

Didn't say they weren't influential. Political culture is different to democracy. Clicks and subs ain't votes and influencers don't have to make and deliver on election promises.

Which is why they are so important, and more influencial than most politicians.

 

[dirty harry]

The thing that strikes me, is that it's not like I'm asking some deep question or anything. It's not like the question "why do you think Trump lost in 2020?" Is at odds with his view or anything, well, not really. I don't know why he can't just say Covid or some other reason. I know he said Trump polled well on covid (though there's data to suggest this is not the case) but I even put in my original post that trumps handling of it was bad or the perception of it was bad so gave him an out where he could say "look, clearly Covid was a monumental thing and even though Trump handled it well he got crucified in the press and that led lots of people to vote for Biden" it's not hard and it's not even giving any credit to the Dems or taking anything away from Trump. His mail in voter response was just weird in my opinion. Well, weird for someone who says he doesn't like Trump.

Im not sure why this disingenuous response was needed, mailing voting was a massive issues pre election, Democrats wanted it in the name of public safety, Republicans fought against it in the name of fairnes.

You asked a question that could take months of research, infact has taken years of research to conclude, soni simplified it based on data.

Trump did very well 2020, from 62 million to 75? Million, it took a freak turnout on behalf of Democrats to usurp that.

 

[dirty harry]

I always tell my kids:

Persistence beats resistance.

But then I should probably stop

This is the exact reason im going to save your soul!