[2014 EOYT] South Africa

[TRF_stormer2010]

I edited the OP to include logo's and the match referee.

A full list of the match officials:

Ireland v South Africa Aviva Stadium, Dublin, 8 Nov 2014 17:30
Referee: Romain Poite (FFR)
Assistants: Mathieu Raynal (FFR) Alexandre Ruiz (FFR)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)

England v South Africa Twickenham, London 15 Nov 2014 14:30
Referee: Steve Walsh (ARU)
Assistants: Jérôme Garcès (FFR) Nick Briant (NZR)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (FFR)

Italy v South Africa Stadio Euganeo, Padova 22 Nov 2014 15:00
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (FFR)
Assistants: Pascal Gauzere (FFR) Alexandre Ruiz (FFR)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (WRU)

Wales v South Africa Millennium Stadium, Cardiff 29 Nov 2014 14:30
Referee: John Lacey (IRFU)
Assistants: George Clancy (IRFU) Pascal Gauzere (FFR)
TMO: Graham Hughes (RFU)


I will edit the OP again when the touring squad is announced on the 26th? and will replace the 'specualtion list' with the final touring squad of 36.

 

[TRF_heineken]

The squad will be announced just after the final whistle of the Currie Cup final.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

So the 25th then, thanks, Hein. I can narrow it down to 31 players. I think it's the other 5 that will be the usual combination of pleasant surprises and disappointments.

 

[Icemn]

i only see SA beating Italy.. maybe Ireland...

 

[nickdnz]

i only see SA beating Italy.. maybe Ireland...

They just beat the All Blacks..

 

[TheSaffycen]

I see them beating Italy by 15. Beating Wales by 10 and the other 2 will be between 5 points either way.

 

[Icemn]

They just beat the All Blacks..

so? they are only a threat playing at home in South Africa... on the road they are poor...

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

so? they are only a threat playing at home in South Africa... on the road they are poor...

We have a current 3 year 100% sucess record in Europe. Better than the ABs can boast at this moment. So I wouldn't say 'poor'.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

so? they are only a threat playing at home in South Africa... on the road they are poor...

They'll win all four games! Ireland are ****ed with injuries, England play very similar rugby but not as effective and Wales need to play a Southern Hemisphere side about 7 times in the space of two years to beat them at the moment!

 

[Icemn]

We have a current 3 year 100% sucess record in Europe. Better than the ABs can boast at this moment. So I wouldn't say 'poor'.

i would brag about those #stampkar #smoorwen if i were you...

 

[SomeOke]

Do not feed the troll.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

i would brag about those #stampkar #smoorwen if i were you...

I am going to assume you meant to say 'wouldn't'. But I wasn't boasting; I was merely pointing out the fact in response to your saying SA is poor on the road and I'd say it disqualifies your remark entirely. We aren't any more or less effective away from home than anyone else. Here I'm not saying we aren't poorer on the road than at home but everyone is and that is another discussion.

Back on topic looks like a few of the 'non-core' Bokke will be playing in the CC. Hope they stay fit. Jaco Taute I'd say has shot his chances of a call up to bits much like the hotel he stayed in while Nizaam Carr and Thomas du Toit have been touted by the media as looking like Bok candidates and TBH I wouldn't begrudge either of the two a call up to understate.

 

[TRF_heineken]

I am going to assume you meant to say 'wouldn't'. But I wasn't boasting; I was merely pointing out the fact in response to your saying SA is poor on the road and I'd say it disqualifies your remark entirely. We aren't any more or less effective away from home than anyone else. Here I'm not saying we aren't poorer on the road than at home but everyone is and that is another discussion.

Back on topic looks like a few of the 'non-core' Bokke will be playing in the CC. Hope they stay fit. Jaco Taute I'd say has shot his chances of a call up to bits much like the hotel he stayed in while Nizaam Carr and Thomas du Toit have been touted by the media as looking like Bok candidates and TBH I wouldn't begrudge either of the two a call up to understate.

Remember that tip I gave you about ignoring morons... Now is the time...

 

[Icemn]

I am going to assume you meant to say 'wouldn't'. But I wasn't boasting; I was merely pointing out the fact in response to your saying SA is poor on the road and I'd say it disqualifies your remark entirely. We aren't any more or less effective away from home than anyone else. Here I'm not saying we aren't poorer on the road than at home but everyone is and that is another discussion.

other then results... i look at performances... so yes, very poor... its not about the result, its how you achieve it...

 

[nickdnz]

other then results... i look at performances... so yes, very poor... its not about the result, its how you achieve it...

They scored three tries to the All Blacks 1 - one was a 90m effort..

Why never satisfied?

 

[Icemn]

They scored three tries to the All Blacks 1 - one was a 90m effort...

Why never satisfied?

Because I live in this country... don't like the #stampkar rugby they play... don't like most of the players they select... don't like the coach... don't like them...

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

They scored three tries to the All Blacks 1 - one was a 90m effort..

Why never satisfied?

I could answer that but it'd be terribly rude.

 

[TRF_heineken]

I could answer that but it'd be terribly rude.

I also have an answer, but i don't want to risk the chance of copping a 2-week ban...

 

[Gena_ZA]

Because I live in this country... don't like the #stampkar rugby they play... don't like most of the players they select... don't like the coach... don't like them...

As we live in this country with ********s like you we have to suck it up.
Ur a typical Bergie, please frikkin emigrate to Malta

 

[Icemn]

As we live in this country with ********s like you we have to suck it up.
Ur a typical Bergie, please frikkin emigrate to Malta

because we have a difference in opinion, i am now a **********s... lets all agree with what everyone says guys...

we going off topic here... like i said, SA will win 1 maybe 2 games...

 

[TRF_heineken]

As we live in this country with ********s like you we have to suck it up.
Ur a typical Bergie, please frikkin emigrate to Malta

Why bother. If we all add him to the ignore list, then we won't have to see his kak comments, and the thread will flow so much better, and actually stay on topic. Instead he gets us all riled up saying the same old crap as always. I'm starting to think he's a bot who randomly copy and pastes the word Stampkar into varied sentences...

 

[Icemn]

Why bother. If we all add him to the ignore list, then we won't have to see his kak comments, and the thread will flow so much better, and actually stay on topic. Instead he gets us all riled up saying the same old crap as always. I'm starting to think he's a bot who randomly copy and pastes the word Stampkar into varied sentences...

how boring this forum will be without me... #stampkar

 

[Gena_ZA]

lekker, did not know one could do that, he is so on it now

How you guys keeping up Hein?
Some good rugga of late hey!

 

[unrated]

I have to admit that it is really hard to ignore a troll. anyways i agree with previous statements in this thread that if we dont win all our matches abroad then it should be considered a failure. HM and Jdv has stated on a regular basis their desire to become the best in the world. if we are going to become the best in the world then we have to win these game in order to be able to challenge the all blacks. I see us getting the grand slam.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Report suggests Morne Steyn won't be part of the 36 man squad for the EoYT. It states only two flyhalves (Pollard and Lambie) will make the squad. Does that suggest Pienaar will be seen as utility cover only (he's played 9,10 and 15 for us) with Hougaard and Reinach the first choice scrummies? I hope so..

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/No-Morne-Steyn-for-Bok-tour-20141013

 

[TRF_heineken]

lekker, did not know one could do that, he is so on it now

How you guys keeping up Hein?
Some good rugga of late hey!

We're doing good thanx Gena! It was rather boring on the Currie Cup threads with just me, Stormer, Draggsy, Bull and Imagine (new member) commenting. Glad to have you back though! We missed you.

Report suggests Morne Steyn won't be part of the 36 man squad for the EoYT. It states only two flyhalves (Pollard and Lambie) will make the squad. Does that suggest Pienaar will be seen as utility cover only (he's played 9,10 and 15 for us) with Hougaard and Reinach the first choice scrummies? I hope so..

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/No-Morne-Steyn-for-Bok-tour-20141013

Hmm... That article doesn't say a lot. Maybe Goosen will also get a call up? Or Pienaar as the back-up Fly Half. but with that said, It has happened in the past that if a guy gets injured, a replacement is called up and flown over the following day from SA.

 

[TRF_heineken]

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Fourie-in-Bok-centre-clutter-20141015

Oh Goodie!! Jaque Fourie might make a return...

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Fourie-in-Bok-centre-clutter-20141015

Oh Goodie!! Jaque Fourie might make a return...

TBH I wouldn't mind seeing something like 12)Serfontein/13)Fourie assuming Fourie is fit which I doubt though. Always good to have option though I think Serf and De Jongh are our form centers. Crazy JdJ probably doesn't have a chance to get into this squad. It's not as if JdV is a better defender than JdJ with his extra bulk and De Jongh is electric on attack ATM. I'd rate JdV our 4rth best center. Reminds me of John Smit 2011. Will HM have the balls to bench De Villiers though and have Matfield or someone else captain the side?

 

[TRF_heineken]

TBH I wouldn't mind seeing something like 12)Serfontein/13)Fourie assuming Fourie is fit which I doubt though. Always good to have option though I think Serf and De Jongh are our form centers. Crazy JdJ probably doesn't have a chance to get into this squad. It's not as if JdV is a better defender than JdJ with his extra bulk and De Jongh is electric on attack ATM. I'd rate JdV our 4rth best center. Reminds me of John Smit 2011. Will HM have the balls to bench De Villiers though and have Matfield or someone else captain the side?

I agree on De Jongh, he has been stellar in the Currie Cup, but for me it's a pity that Burger Odendaal broke his arm. He has been a revelation at 12 for the Bulls. I would have loved to see him join the Boks for the EOYT. Can you just imagine the Bulls backline for next season's Super Rugby Tournament:

9. Hougaard
10. Pollard
11. Basson
12. Odendaal
13. Serfontein
14. JJ Engelbrecht
15. Jesse Kriel

Anyways back to the Bokke. We have always had good centres, and it's an area we are not running low on stock. I like the amount of competition for this spot, and it's maybe unfortunate that it's a position taken up by our captain...

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Yeah, Odendaal has been impressive. He is one of the young guys I'll be keeping an eye on next year's SR. I am very excited for SA's backline post RWC2015;

9 Hougard
10 Pollard
11 Senatla
12 Odendaal
13 Serfontein
14 Hendricks
15 Le Roux

20 Reinach
21 Lambie / Boshoff / Goosen (looking alright at RM92 and all can cover 15 well so we can have a center/wing on the bench)
22 Mvovo / De Allende / Kriel / Taute / Kolbe / Jordaan / Marais / Beyers etc etc all with promise; we'll see who steps up