A Political Thread pt. 2

[dirty harry]

Started to watch it, but got a headache by 3 mins. I wish some of these videos weren't done at double speed making it easier to understand, it's a 32 min video which would have worked at an hour as well.

I only lasted 2 mins...

This Ben Shapiro act isn't inviting to watch!

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

So not one person will acknowledge that noone is above the law?!?!

You guys are hilarious! Surely, if there's common ground that was it?

To see you @Ragey Erasmus laugh but not agree judges need to be held accountable when they break the law is sad...

Not even the president, yet you make every excuse under the sun for the he isn't breaking the law himself.

Who exactly claims these others are breaking the law? The same people working for a criminal president.

The real question is when are you going to admit the Trump administration is laying the groundwork for authoritarianism?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I only lasted 2 mins...

This Ben Shapiro act isn't inviting to watch!

Oh **** off, you openly said you pay no attention to it purely because you don't like the style and ignore any of the content.

I asked you repeatedly to state what was factually wrong with the content and you never did, so stop being a lying twat. Actually I'm really not going to get dragged into any more of your sealion crap, you're back on the ignore list for good.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

But as a final thing, because Dirty Harry apparently ignores Trumps illegality:

26 U.S. Code § 7217 - Prohibition on executive branch influence over taxpayer audits and other investigations

www.law.cornell.edu

"It shall be unlawful for any applicable person to request, directly or indirectly, any officer or employee of the Internal Revenue Service to conduct or terminate an audit or other investigation of any particular taxpayer with respect to the tax liability of such taxpayer."

So Trump is breaking the ******* law taking away Harvards tax exempt status Harry, but you'll keep making excuses for why he should apparently be above the law and shouldn't be held to account, whilst perpetuating lies about those he is breaking the law to persecute.

 

[dirty harry]

Not even the president, yet you make every excuse under the sun for the he isn't breaking the law himself.

Who exactly claims these others are breaking the law? The same people working for a criminal president.

The real question is when are you going to admit the Trump administration is laying the groundwork for authoritarianism?

The difference between you and I is easy to spot, I acknowledge that what Trump does is concerning, you criticise him regardless of factual evidence.

If Trump cured cancer, you would call it evil.

Let's be honest, Trump does bad stuff, bit sometime those who oppose him break thenlaw also you have to have the integrity to call out bad doings on both sides, and from what I see, you ONLY criticise one side... why is that?

 

[dirty harry]

Oh **** off, you openly said you pay no attention to it purely because you don't like the style and ignore any of the content.

I asked you repeatedly to state what was factually wrong with the content and you never did, so stop being a lying twat. Actually I'm really not going to get dragged into any more of your sealion crap, you're back on the ignore list for good.

You can be a coward if you like, I provided study, after study, after president to debunk your argument, if you don't feel you can keep up, and would rather an echo chamber to seal clap your opinions then good luck to you...

The amount of verbal abuse and insult thrown at me on this thread shows to me how weak the arguments are and how much you need a dissenting voice!

I honestly thought you were better than some who are weak and poorly educated, maybe I'm wrong!

 

[dirty harry]

But as a final thing, because Dirty Harry apparently ignores Trumps illegality:

26 U.S. Code § 7217 - Prohibition on executive branch influence over taxpayer audits and other investigations

www.law.cornell.edu

"It shall be unlawful for any applicable person to request, directly or indirectly, any officer or employee of the Internal Revenue Service to conduct or terminate an audit or other investigation of any particular taxpayer with respect to the tax liability of such taxpayer."

So Trump is breaking the ******* law taking away Harvards tax exempt status Harry, but you'll keep making excuses for why he should apparently be above the law and shouldn't be held to account, whilst perpetuating lies about those he is breaking the law to persecute.

Actually I agree with you here, US code 7217 is quite clear...

I can disagree with Harvard allowing anti semitic, and I hope you would agree the chants of destruction of isreal are not acceptable, chants, however, as a free speech almost absolutionist I don't agree Harvard should be punished for unacceptable student actions, nor should they be de funded allowing bad ideas on campus, regardless of those ideas. I also absolutely disagree with DEI policy, but understand the importance of institutions abilities to hire based on their own principals.

If Christian or Muslim schools hire on the basis of faith, then why shouldn't others hire on the basis of DEI?

 

[General Melchett]

I only lasted 2 mins...

Not something to brag about although it does explain why you're on here all the time.

 

[Welsh Exile]

The difference between you and I is easy to spot, I acknowledge that what Trump does is concerning, you criticise him regardless of factual evidence.

If Trump cured cancer, you would call it evil.

Let's be honest, Trump does bad stuff, bit sometime those who oppose him break thenlaw also you have to have the integrity to call out bad doings on both sides, and from what I see, you ONLY criticise one side... why is that?

We've been over this. Because one side is waaaaaaaaay worse than the other whereas you think they're all the same.

Criticising Biden/Obama/Hilary *insert any dem here* an equal amount, or even really any amount, when you have Trump in the picture would be like telling someone they shouldn't smoke pot on the weekends when his best mate is an international crime lord who smokes crack and crystal meth every day. One deserves more attention.

 

[McTallshort]

Was listening to a podcast yesterday about the cover up regards Bidens health and mental strength going into the election. It's amazing that the Democrats didn't just say "right Joes not up for it let's have a primary" as early as 2023. You have to wonder at what their leadership was thinking putting someone with cancer and most likely dementia up for reelection.

 

[AlRums]

GOP Congressman Says Trump’s Tax Bill Doesn’t Cut Any Medicaid, Food Benefits

Rep. Derrick Van Orden (R-Wis.) said Democrats are "lying" about the sweeping GOP plan to cut $1 trillion from federal health and food programs.

www.huffpost.com

 

[dirty harry]

We've been over this. Because one side is waaaaaaaaay worse than the other whereas you think they're all the same.

Criticising Biden/Obama/Hilary *insert any dem here* an equal amount, or even really any amount, when you have Trump in the picture would be like telling someone they shouldn't smoke pot on the weekends when his best mate is an international crime lord who smokes crack and crystal meth every day. One deserves more attention.

But that's only in the view of those on this board, and probably about 70 million more in the USA.

The truth is, none of this is new, as I've evidenced over and over, not a lot of what Trump is doingnis new, it's just new to you guys who havnt paid attention over the years, or who havnt wanted to see the constant blatant corruption of every US president!

Name me an action from Trump I can't find from one of the last few presidents? Outside of being a ******** on social media...

Border policy, standard. ICE controversies, standard. Law suits, standard. Weaponisation of the DOJ, standard. Insider trading, standard.

Give me an action from Trump I can't find from Obama, Biden, Bush or Clinton???

Even election denying, Nancy Pelosi just accused Trump of cheating 2024 last week lol!!

 

[dirty harry]

Was listening to a podcast yesterday about the cover up regards Bidens health and mental strength going into the election. It's amazing that the Democrats didn't just say "right Joes not up for it let's have a primary" as early as 2023. You have to wonder at what their leadership was thinking putting someone with cancer and most likely dementia up for reelection.

The leading theory from the right, which makes sense to me at least, was to push Harris through as a candidate.

She was so bad in the 2020 primaries, calling Biden a racist scumbag and then getting humiliated by Tulsi Gabbard, there is 0 chance she would win a primary, certainly not against some of the Dem candidates who's popularity was growing, RFK, Newsome and Emanuel.

To be fair to them, putting Biden in a basement and refusing him public appearances worked in 2020, why wouldn't they try similar in 2024?

 

[BrokenWing]

Give me an action from Trump I can't find from Obama, Biden, Bush or Clinton???

Even election denying, Nancy Pelosi just accused Trump of cheating 2024 last week lol!!

Just to point out, Pelosi isn't one of the people you previously mentioned.

 

[dirty harry]

Just to point out, Pelosi isn't one of the people you previously mentioned.

Hence the 'even' suggesting a more modern Egregious act.

 

[AlRums]

Name me an action from Trump I can't find from one of the last few presidents? Outside of being a ******** on social media...

Cryptocurrency coins, having his own whilst regulating it, selling access to the investors, major conflict of interest ($394 million in total to attend his dinner)

Calls for investigations of every media outlet who point out his flaws, as long as they're not right wing.

Accepting $400 million jets from a alleged terrorist supporting government.

Threatening and trying to close down a university that won't accede to his whims.

Threatening the entire world and penguins with tariffs.

Building hotels etc in countries he wants favours from in the middle east.

Trying to wipe out the very thought of non white people in America.

Sucking up to Putin and accusing the victim (Ukraine) of starting a war.

Lies at EVERY opportunity.

I could go on, but no other president have done any of those things.

You're full of s**t.

 

[Welsh Exile]

But that's only in the view of those on this board, and probably about 70 million more in the USA.

The truth is, none of this is new, as I've evidenced over and over, not a lot of what Trump is doingnis new, it's just new to you guys who havnt paid attention over the years, or who havnt wanted to see the constant blatant corruption of every US president!

Name me an action from Trump I can't find from one of the last few presidents? Outside of being a ******** on social media...

Border policy, standard. ICE controversies, standard. Law suits, standard. Weaponisation of the DOJ, standard. Insider trading, standard.

Give me an action from Trump I can't find from Obama, Biden, Bush or Clinton???

Even election denying, Nancy Pelosi just accused Trump of cheating 2024 last week lol!!

See, this is where I can't quite see if you're being disingenuous or not. You say even election denying and then say Nancy Pelosi. (I can't find anything on her saying what you said she said so welcome to post a link of that) but assuming she said it she's not the POTUS. Did Obama or Biden or anyone carry on like Trump has. Trump has institutionalised this conspiracy into the whole party, into the voters, the cult. Look at the dominion lawsuit. Unprecedented levels of lies from Fox to support the idea of election fraud. He still goes on about it even when he won again and we all know it's a lie. Show me a president who's done that.

And then show me a Jan 6th/fake elector plot equivalent.

 

[dirty harry]

Cryptocurrency coins, having his own whilst regulating it, selling access to the investors, major conflict of interest ($394 million in total to attend his dinner)

Calls for investigations of every media outlet who point out his flaws, as long as they're not right wing.

Accepting $400 million jets from a alleged terrorist supporting government.

Threatening and trying to close down a university that won't accede to his whims.

Threatening the entire world and penguins with tariffs.

Building hotels etc in countries he wants favours from in the middle east.

Trying to wipe out the very thought of non white people in America.

Sucking up to Putin and accusing the victim (Ukraine) of starting a war.

Lies at EVERY opportunity.

I could go on, but no other president have done any of those things.

You're full of s**t.

Mate with the greatest of respect, and ignoring another ad hom attack on me... this is not an honest comment...

No president has been able to utilise crypto in reality, Biden was senile and unaware of what it was. Trump has made little, infact Trump was the first president to lose personal wealth until his truth social media group floated.
Lots of Dems and Reps insider trade, Pelosi being the most notorious, who's husband manages a hedge fund and makes vast more profits than his competitors. Let's be honest, Trump made a pump and dump with Musks help recently, which is disgusting, but 100% in line with a lot of US politicians.

Are you sure about the news?!?!?!

Prosecuting Journalists Complicates Biden’s Press Freedom Legacy

During the Biden administration, the Justice Department pursued criminal cases that threatened to criminalize newsgathering and undermine journalist protections.

www.lawfaremedia.org

Biden literally paved the way for Trump, even while being given a free ride from most organistaions.

What's the issue with the jet, the 2 air force 1 jets are years behind schedule, air force 1 isn't fit for purpose apparently, so why not take a plane that already exists, and repurpose it temporarily until the other 2 are ready? Try has stated that it will be passed on or retired to a museum once he leaves.

Mate what do you think ***le IX was? Cajoling of universities to bend to Obamas whim, with the threat of losing funding! There were tons of trials of professors and students that curtailed free speech.

Trump's tarrifs aren't new news, Democrats have advocated for them, especially against China for decades, trade wars have been ongoing for 100 years, this is just the first time there's been a nuclear reaction. There is plenty of video of Democrats, usually when in opposition berating the government for not being tough on China, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and then Trump 1, and Biden all failed to restructure China's deals...

"Trying to wipe out the very thought of non white people in America."

I don't even know where to start with this comment lol do I address the stupidity of it? Or do I mention record black unemployment pre covid, or record black and Hispanic votes in 2024 for a Republican?!?!

Ukraine is a victim? It wasn't part of the escalation? Installing an actor as president, and then accelerating application to the UN despite knowing that was a Russian red line?! Let's be 100% honest, the invasion by Putin was unnecessary, and we can condemn that and a lot of acts, but are we pretending there was no provocation for that at all? Even the most biased of people can recognise there were mistakes made all round no?

Did you just claim no other president has lied?!?! Are you for real?!?!

 

[dirty harry]

See, this is where I can't quite see if you're being disingenuous or not. You say even election denying and then say Nancy Pelosi. (I can't find anything on her saying what you said she said so welcome to post a link of that) but assuming she said it she's not the POTUS. Did Obama or Biden or anyone carry on like Trump has. Trump has institutionalised this conspiracy into the whole party, into the voters, the cult. Look at the dominion lawsuit. Unprecedented levels of lies from Fox to support the idea of election fraud. He still goes on about it even when he won again and we all know it's a lie. Show me a president who's done that.

And then show me a Jan 6th/fake

Mate come on...

I can't remember what interview it was, but when asked she referred to Trump as illegitimate, as has Clinton, Schumer and many prominent Democrats.

Dominion sued Fox didn't they, regarding their claims about the machines, I get it, as I said previously Trump can be both perpetrator and victim.

You know my stance, I'm sick of reiterating ot to you, Trump can be condemned for a lot of stuff he's done, as I have said above condemning him for a number of things, but I can't allow the stupidity of criticising him for things he hasn't done, or are politically motivated stories to target him.

I've repeated over and over, there are 3 stories per week, claiming he's literally Hitelr, none of them turn out to be true, and the fatigue felt by normal people of thos contributes to hos ever growing popularity.

Let's play a little game, what if I'm right, and the tactics used since day 1 aren't bringing him down, but only making him more popular, echo chambers like this one reinforce how evil he is, bit contribute to emboldened support etc, and ultimately he serves 2 terms, and paves the way for a big Republican stronghold for a decade plus...

 

[Welsh Exile]

So you can't show me any other times when PRESIDENTS have done this. Would you admit that you're comparing apples and oranges then?

Also, post some links when you say things like stories saying Trump is literally Hitler. Not even denying it just would be handy if you backed up your claims in these instances.