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A Political Thread pt. 2

So you can't show me any other times when PRESIDENTS have done this. Would you admit that you're comparing apples and oranges then?

Also, post some links when you say things like stories saying Trump is literally Hitler. Not even denying it just would be handy if you backed up your claims in these instances.

Ok, name the specific claim. It's difficult to narrow down when I post links, dispelled mirtruths and just get generic answers from people who just want to win an argument.

Are we talking insider trading, the jet, pressuring universities, sucking up to Putin, or as above, the eradication of non white people?
 
Ok, name the specific claim. It's difficult to narrow down when I post links, dispelled mirtruths and just get generic answers from people who just want to win an argument.

Are we talking insider trading, the jet, pressuring universities, sucking up to Putin, or as above, the eradication of non white people?
I'm talking election denial (to the levels I outlined earlier by a president) and Jan 6th/Fake elector plot.
 
Ok, name the specific claim. It's difficult to narrow down when I post links, dispelled mirtruths and just get generic answers from people who just want to win an argument.

Are we talking insider trading, the jet, pressuring universities, sucking up to Putin, or as above, the eradication of non white people?
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I'm talking election denial (to the levels I outlined earlier by a president) and Jan 6th/Fake elector plot.

Election denial.




Storming the capitol:



Let's be honest, Trump incentivised a scenario where his supporters got out of hand, causing 1000 arrests for low level offences, but he 100% told them to protest peacefully. Democrats never did the same? Promoting and them helping g protestors causing billions of dollars in damage, dozens of deaths etc?

There are nuanced reasons for both, lockdowns, mistrust in politicians etc, unless you ar making the claim one side good, one bad?
 
Election denial.




Storming the capitol:



Let's be honest, Trump incentivised a scenario where his supporters got out of hand, causing 1000 arrests for low level offences, but he 100% told them to protest peacefully. Democrats never did the same? Promoting and them helping g protestors causing billions of dollars in damage, dozens of deaths etc?

There are nuanced reasons for both, lockdowns, mistrust in politicians etc, unless you ar making the claim one side good, one bad?
Are you reading my posts or just ignoring the words I use deliberately?
 
Harry, for clarification, I am talking about presidents. I'm not talking about some randoms on twitter or even other government officials. I'm asking you what presidents have engaged in election denialism to the levels Trump has and what other presidents have engaged in fake elector plots and Jan 6th. Not BLM riots FFS.
 
Mate with the greatest of respect, and ignoring another ad hom attack on me... this is not an honest comment...

No president has been able to utilise crypto in reality, Biden was senile and unaware of what it was. Trump has made little, infact Trump was the first president to lose personal wealth until his truth social media group floated.
Lots of Dems and Reps insider trade, Pelosi being the most notorious, who's husband manages a hedge fund and makes vast more profits than his competitors. Let's be honest, Trump made a pump and dump with Musks help recently, which is disgusting, but 100% in line with a lot of US politicians.

Are you sure about the news?!?!?!


Biden literally paved the way for Trump, even while being given a free ride from most organistaions.

What's the issue with the jet, the 2 air force 1 jets are years behind schedule, air force 1 isn't fit for purpose apparently, so why not take a plane that already exists, and repurpose it temporarily until the other 2 are ready? Try has stated that it will be passed on or retired to a museum once he leaves.

Mate what do you think ***le IX was? Cajoling of universities to bend to Obamas whim, with the threat of losing funding! There were tons of trials of professors and students that curtailed free speech.

Trump's tarrifs aren't new news, Democrats have advocated for them, especially against China for decades, trade wars have been ongoing for 100 years, this is just the first time there's been a nuclear reaction. There is plenty of video of Democrats, usually when in opposition berating the government for not being tough on China, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and then Trump 1, and Biden all failed to restructure China's deals...

"Trying to wipe out the very thought of non white people in America."

I don't even know where to start with this comment lol do I address the stupidity of it? Or do I mention record black unemployment pre covid, or record black and Hispanic votes in 2024 for a Republican?!?!

Ukraine is a victim? It wasn't part of the escalation? Installing an actor as president, and then accelerating application to the UN despite knowing that was a Russian red line?! Let's be 100% honest, the invasion by Putin was unnecessary, and we can condemn that and a lot of acts, but are we pretending there was no provocation for that at all? Even the most biased of people can recognise there were mistakes made all round no?

Did you just claim no other president has lied?!?! Are you for real?!?!
You're still full of ****

Biden/Obama didn't get involved in crypto because it wasn't recognised in the US.

Trump launched his own, and his wife's, meme coins and is regulating them.

In case you missed it he can control crypto in the US. He can even order his own meme coin into the crypto stockpile, ie the taxpayer can pay.

It's estimated at launch 58 wallets profited by more than $10m. A forensic analysis commissioned by The New York Times concluded that 813,294 wallets lost $2 billion by trading the coin while the president's company and partners profited about $100 million from trading fees. It's a classic rug pull scheme.

Insider trading was never mentioned by me, just another one of your whataboutisms.

If you think there is nothing wrong with the jet then you are only echoing hardcore MAGAs. Trump is responsible for the Boeing deal.


He forced a much lower price and crowed about it and seemed to gloss over the fact the air force wanted 3 years to test it. Trump ****** up his own deal.

***le IX was legislating against sex discrimination not remotely similar to trump's actions. He wants Harvard to tow his line, and suppress free speech. Which seems to be a real driver at the moment.

Trump is the only president to announce a worldwide tariff. Show where I'm wrong.

Trump has decided to defend black American museums, I posted about it a few days ago


His war against dei, not just in America but threatening foreign companies, is very racist. It may not be a great policy but he wants non whites at the back of the queue.


(Another good example are all his lies about South African genocide, only wants to help the whites, bugger the blacks and waving pictures of alleged atrocities which were actually from another country entirely)

Of course Ukraine is the victim, only one man in the world has said Ukraine started it, guess who? Trump.

By the way Ukraine were a founding member of the UN since it's inception in 1945.


"Installing an actor as president", really? Didn't that happen in a much larger country a while back? Is an actor worse than reality TV? Or a bankrupt? Or a sexual predator? Or a fraudster?
 
Harry, for clarification, I am talking about presidents. I'm not talking about some randoms on twitter or even other government officials. I'm asking you what presidents have engaged in election denialism to the levels Trump has and what other presidents have engaged in fake elector plots and Jan 6th. Not BLM riots FFS.
He only deals in whataboutisms.
 
You're still full of ****

Biden/Obama didn't get involved in crypto because it wasn't recognised in the US.

Trump launched his own, and his wife's, meme coins and is regulating them.

In case you missed it he can control crypto in the US. He can even order his own meme coin into the crypto stockpile, ie the taxpayer can pay.

It's estimated at launch 58 wallets profited by more than $10m. A forensic analysis commissioned by The New York Times concluded that 813,294 wallets lost $2 billion by trading the coin while the president's company and partners profited about $100 million from trading fees. It's a classic rug pull scheme.

Insider trading was never mentioned by me, just another one of your whataboutisms.

If you think there is nothing wrong with the jet then you are only echoing hardcore MAGAs. Trump is responsible for the Boeing deal.


He forced a much lower price and crowed about it and seemed to gloss over the fact the air force wanted 3 years to test it. Trump ****** up his own deal.

***le IX was legislating against sex discrimination not remotely similar to trump's actions. He wants Harvard to tow his line, and suppress free speech. Which seems to be a real driver at the moment.

Trump is the only president to announce a worldwide tariff. Show where I'm wrong.

Trump has decided to defend black American museums, I posted about it a few days ago


His war against dei, not just in America but threatening foreign companies, is very racist. It may not be a great policy but he wants non whites at the back of the queue.


(Another good example are all his lies about South African genocide, only wants to help the whites, bugger the blacks and waving pictures of alleged atrocities which were actually from another country entirely)

Of course Ukraine is the victim, only one man in the world has said Ukraine started it, guess who? Trump.

By the way Ukraine were a founding member of the UN since it's inception in 1945.


"Installing an actor as president", really? Didn't that happen in a much larger country a while back? Is an actor worse than reality TV? Or a bankrupt? Or a sexual predator? Or a fraudster?
He's been watching Joe Rogan again. Fancy not knowing Ukraine was already in the UN 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Harry, for clarification, I am talking about presidents. I'm not talking about some randoms on twitter or even other government officials. I'm asking you what presidents have engaged in election denialism to the levels Trump has and what other presidents have engaged in fake elector plots and Jan 6th. Not BLM riots FFS.

So you need to know, what specific presidents engaged in a specific fake elector plot, on specifically Jan 6th, with blonde hair and and a son named Baron? Hahahahahaha

Your right not to compare Jan 6th and BLM riots, one was far more deadly, endorsed fully bu politicians, and those arrested for crimes were helped to not be convicted by political judges and politicians...

I wonder how Trump came to be hahahaha

Come on mate, your better than this, all I'm asking for is a bit of reasoning, and not blind hatred.
 
You're still full of ****

Biden/Obama didn't get involved in crypto because it wasn't recognised in the US.

Trump launched his own, and his wife's, meme coins and is regulating them.

In case you missed it he can control crypto in the US. He can even order his own meme coin into the crypto stockpile, ie the taxpayer can pay.

It's estimated at launch 58 wallets profited by more than $10m. A forensic analysis commissioned by The New York Times concluded that 813,294 wallets lost $2 billion by trading the coin while the president's company and partners profited about $100 million from trading fees. It's a classic rug pull scheme.

Insider trading was never mentioned by me, just another one of your whataboutisms.

If you think there is nothing wrong with the jet then you are only echoing hardcore MAGAs. Trump is responsible for the Boeing deal.


He forced a much lower price and crowed about it and seemed to gloss over the fact the air force wanted 3 years to test it. Trump ****** up his own deal.

***le IX was legislating against sex discrimination not remotely similar to trump's actions. He wants Harvard to tow his line, and suppress free speech. Which seems to be a real driver at the moment.

Trump is the only president to announce a worldwide tariff. Show where I'm wrong.

Trump has decided to defend black American museums, I posted about it a few days ago


His war against dei, not just in America but threatening foreign companies, is very racist. It may not be a great policy but he wants non whites at the back of the queue.


(Another good example are all his lies about South African genocide, only wants to help the whites, bugger the blacks and waving pictures of alleged atrocities which were actually from another country entirely)

Of course Ukraine is the victim, only one man in the world has said Ukraine started it, guess who? Trump.

By the way Ukraine were a founding member of the UN since it's inception in 1945.


"Installing an actor as president", really? Didn't that happen in a much larger country a while back? Is an actor worse than reality TV? Or a bankrupt? Or a sexual predator? Or a fraudster?

It's difficult to read on, when the first line is 'your still full of ****'

I implore you to be better than you are acting, I don't know if your better than this, but I want to believe you are!
 
So you need to know, what specific presidents engaged in a specific fake elector plot, on specifically Jan 6th, with blonde hair and and a son named Baron? Hahahahahaha

Your right not to compare Jan 6th and BLM riots, one was far more deadly, endorsed fully bu politicians, and those arrested for crimes were helped to not be convicted by political judges and politicians...

I wonder how Trump came to be hahahaha

Come on mate, your better than this, all I'm asking for is a bit of reasoning, and not blind hatred.
No im not asking for the same date and I think you know that, but yes, I'm asking you which specific presidents have done something like Jan 6th/fake elector plot. I'm also asking you to point to other presidents that have demonstrated Trump level election denialism and institutionalised said electoral conspiracy theory into the party, the voters and the media.

Was the BLM riots orchestrated by Biden to delay the certification of the vote to try and overturn the legitimate results of an election?
 
Was the BLM riots orchestrated by Biden to delay the certification of the vote to try and overturn the legitimate results of an election?
Don't let him keep conflating BLM with anything else. It's a protest movement that has some bad actors - as almost all of them do. It has nothing to do with elections.
 
No im not asking for the same date and I think you know that, but yes, I'm asking you which specific presidents have done something like Jan 6th/fake elector plot. I'm also asking you to point to other presidents that have demonstrated Trump level election denialism and institutionalised said electoral conspiracy theory into the party, the voters and the media.

Was the BLM riots orchestrated by Biden to delay the certification of the vote to try and overturn the legitimate results of an election?

Mate your playing pedantic.

I can acknowledge that no president, has attempted to overturn the election in the same way Trump did.

It isn't hard to say these things, but the lies and mistruths can't be acknowledged, like can you acknowledge that on Jan 6th, before anyone went near the capitol Trump gave a speach that included advocacy to peacefully protest?
 
Don't let him keep conflating BLM with anything else. It's a protest movement that has some bad actors - as almost all of them do. It has nothing to do with elections.
The creators of the movement are bad actors lol

Do you agree that the nuclear family needs disrupting and any form of law enforcement like police, and prisons need demolishing?
 

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