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A Political Thread pt. 2

i know, dont think he answered my last one either....but i feel like im being gas lit when people make statements like this as if it make perfect sense. It has the same energy as when arseholes tall a women it was her own fault when she gets raped because she looked sexy

@TommiG88 Heimdall ?

This is the 3rd time rape has been used as an example on this thread in a situation that has 0 to do with it. I've asked twice before and I'll ask again, can we please not use rape for personal arguing reasons, it's too serious for that!
 
Also, Ukraine had tried to join NATO twice and been rejected both times due to corruption, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia also border Russia but Russia didn't invade them. Finland applied to join after Russia started it's special military humiliation and Russia didn't seem bothered at all. The NATO was just a WMD. Harry knows this he's just being a twat

Really?!?!

Putin’s warning from 2016: “When we look across the border now, we see a Finn on the other side. If Finland joins NATO, we will see an enemy.”

Putin can't fight wars all over, this was a quite response than usual, probably because of the ongoing war, maybe because of the lack of military infrastructure Russia has in Finland.

If I remember correctly Russia deployed a fleet in the Kola Peninsula, which includes ballistic missiles, due to the perceived threat.

These actions are in line with Russian attitudes to threats perceived or real. Remember Russia does look long term, and will respond at some point, which is exactly my point, why keep provoking them?
 
Really?!?!

Putin's warning from 2016: "When we look across the border now, we see a Finn on the other side. If Finland joins NATO, we will see an enemy."

Putin can't fight wars all over, this was a quite response than usual, probably because of the ongoing war, maybe because of the lack of military infrastructure Russia has in Finland.

If I remember correctly Russia deployed a fleet in the Kola Peninsula, which includes ballistic missiles, due to the perceived threat.

These actions are in line with Russian attitudes to threats perceived or real. Remember Russia does look long term, and will respond at some point, which is exactly my point, why keep provoking them?
So Ukraine not being in NATO provoked Russia?
 
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Fascinating the real issue appears to ve non voters and and how many people Labour are just putting off.

Labour have the same issue as Dems, low voter turnout is their friend, that's not a long term strategy to success, soon enough a charismatic populist / cult of personality will come along and the momentum will be too much to stop.
 
So Ukraine not being in NATO provoked Russia?

Finland, you mentioned Finland lol

Your trying to argue a point that's been disproved, "Finland applied to join after Russia started it's special military humiliation and Russia didn't seem bothered at all."

Putin called Finns enemies if they joined NATO, and made military manoeuvres in the Kola peninsula. We can deduce Putin was bothered, he's just too busy to be able to do anything substantial. He made the same noises with Ukraine in 2021 did he not, kept warning them about their exercises and infrastructure in Ukraine?
 
Finland, you mentioned Finland lol

Your trying to argue a point that's been disproved, "Finland applied to join after Russia started it's special military humiliation and Russia didn't seem bothered at all."

Putin called Finns enemies if they joined NATO, and made military manoeuvres in the Kola peninsula. We can deduce Putin was bothered, he's just too busy to be able to do anything substantial. He made the same noises with Ukraine in 2021 did he not, kept warning them about their exercises and infrastructure in Ukraine?
Warned Ukraine about their exercises and infrastructure in their own country?
 
Interesting list for the Nobel peace prize, Trump obviously, the nation state of South Africa, the Jan 6th committee, and Elon Musk?!?!

Trump may well win, I've given up guessing what they'll do since a Nobel Peace Prize-winning President (Obama) was given the award, while being condemned for sending a gunship to kill the staff of a Nobel Peace Prize-winning charity, using the weapons made by the company that the founder of the Nobel Peace Prize used to own....
 

Jesus, the state of tensions in the UK, when the police have to release that the potential driver was white and British, and asking people not to speculate.

Can't imagine there aren't a number of deaths, hopefully I'm wrong.
 
****** me off that they have to lead these stories with the ethnicity and nationality of the suspect

Don't go to youtube comments, christ almighty it's a dumpster fire, all the usual dog whistles, some flat out racism and a lot of blaming Kier Starmer for being willing to release the ethnicity of the perpetrator within minutes in the case of it being a white man.

The raw footage is brutal, looks like he's slowing, swerving to avoid people at times, and police come in to rescue the driver from the mob.
 
****** me off that they have to lead these stories with the ethnicity and nationality of the suspect
Maybe but check all the comments on this right wing American article


The daily mail even disabled comments.
 
Don't go to youtube comments, christ almighty it's a dumpster fire, all the usual dog whistles, some flat out racism and a lot of blaming Kier Starmer for being willing to release the ethnicity of the perpetrator within minutes in the case of it being a white man.

The raw footage is brutal, looks like he's slowing, swerving to avoid people at times, and police come in to rescue the driver from the mob.
It's just disgusting, we should he better than this but the same old petrol keeps getting poured on the same old fires.
 

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