May's first major mis-step
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I understand the need to keep Boris in the fold, but is their a job he's worse suited to than foreign secretary? At least he's a nice fellow I suppose, but my god foot meet mouth.
Depends on the market he handles, sounds like europe is being handle by someone else.
He suits the american market and i think he is fairly liked in the Asian areas.
I guess May doesn't want to change tack on the junior doctor situation, and it's better for Hunt to take the hit than ruin the reputation of another MP?
He's really not. Charming maybe, but not nice.
I am surprised as anyone and maybe even shocked! However, to my understanding he is an extremely intelligent guy who did not do a bad job for London?
Sure he portrays himself as a buffoon, sure he has done somethings that most politicians would not, sure he has played the field........!!!
I am not going to jump to conclusions too quickly and am prepared to give him, and May, the benefit of the doubt!
Surely, I hope, she has seen something in him to do a job she wants from him or why would she take such a huge, apparently, risk so early in her administration?
It does give the Remainers and the anti Boris clique something to whinge about though,.....
Regardless of whether he's intelligent underneath the veneer of buffoonery, it must be seen as an odd position for him. He has insulted countries and people he now needs to work with.
The only thought I have is that it is some kind of shrewd move to neutralise Boris. Whilst Boris is in the cabinet, he must follow cabinet collective responsibility. Foreign affairs means Boris travelling overseas, where he can't harm May's government. It keeps him in enough not to be a pain to her.
But on the other hand, there's not really a legislative agenda associated with foreign secretary. What Hunt did in health has to be passed by Cameron and Osborne. His mess is as much their mess too. But foreign secretary? There isn't really a clear link. You don't enact much policy - it's more of a glorified diplomat. If Boris acts out of line, it will be more of a reflection on him rather than May. But we are waiting until the day that Boris causes some kind of diplomatic incident which May has to clear up. It could damage Boris' reputation without causing any harm to the government.
I think removing the international trade brief from the foreign secretary portfolio might suggest that May doesn't particularly trust Johnson...
You may well be right and was certainly in my mind too especially the last para.....
Many of the insults are actually what a lot of people may well think but he said it!!
You don't know how it will work and yes I would expect preferential treatment because they export far more to us than we do to them so again you don't know it's a non starter you are just taking the worst case and saying it will be the norm just like the whole remain campaign really
While that's true, preferential treatment would make it attractive for other countries to leave, too. The EU can't want that at all.
Restricting immigration while still having free access to the common market is difficult at best. Just look at the problems the Swiss have had with that since their referendum. Incidentally, the Leave vote in the UK could make it even more difficult for them.
Yes but most other European countries are not as rich or import so much from other EU members. If say the Czech Republic wanted to leave because Britain had a decent trade deal then then the EU wouldn't bat an eyelid.
Let's not forget the mess the EU and Euro is in. It might not be the best place to have a trade deal with
I mean the same is true of the United States but still they have tariffs. The U.Ks trade with Europe accounts for about 13% of their GDP, but it's only 3% of Europe's GDP.
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That's over 27 countries but it's truly only over about 5 and individually it's more than 3% for those countries....bet it's more than 3% for Ireland
You betcha it's more than 3% for Ireland but countries can't break ranks on this with the E.U. If the E.U as a whole doesn't want that trade with Britain because they don't play ball or for whatever reason, well then unlucky for us, we're part of their economy and the countries that don't like that such as Ireland need to accept it or leave.
Another thing to note is that if Britain were to look outside of Europe to the WTO or an organisation like that they may have a hard time because Britain are really strong in services which is a much harder commodity to do deals over for a bunch of reasons. Britain would have likely really benefited more than most from the Trade in Services Agreement which will eventually be negotiated between the E.U and U.S. The fact is that access to the free market will not come without a cost. That or the E.U falls apart. I think free trade will continue, but it will be on the back of Britain caving here. The E.U can't put the integrity of the entire union at risk for Britain's business.
Just wanted to put this up as I can't stop laughing.
A lobby group in America made Irish themed ads to pressure congress into lowering the Corp Tax rate and it's...... Well see for yourself
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...h-tax-regime-in-tongue-in-cheek-ads-1.2722058
I dunno what's worse. The accent that sounds like someone from Senegal having a stroke or how wrongly they're pulling a pint of Guinness.
A lobby group in America made Irish themed ads to pressure congress into lowering the Corp Tax rate and it's...... Well see for yourself
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...h-tax-regime-in-tongue-in-cheek-ads-1.2722058
I dunno what's worse. The accent that sounds like someone from Senegal having a stroke or how wrongly they're pulling a pint of Guinness.
LOL pretty sure that is how all Irish folk speak.
I like the shove a redheaded girl in there when talking about Female leaders.
TBH i feel a bit for Ireland and it's Irish -american crowd i met a group from Boston (I think) who had such an out dated view of the country and had quite strong beliefs about the country.
Also RE Johnson it depends on how May is wanting foreign minister to go is it basically going to be a London mayor type role with Her, Fox and Davis handling actual business? A Foreign Minister is what the PM wants it to be and TBH the PM will be handling the major stuff anyway.
Johnson acts like an idiot (and is prob to some amazing gaffs) but he is also very intelligent IMO and very very clever at getting what he wants, look at this Gove stabbed him in the back and Johnson played it quiet no doubt positioning himself with the candidate he felt would win behind doors (which is what happened).
It's a shrewd move by May IMO Boris is good at drawing attention and is good at getting support (Brexit might have down it some what) when it comes to politicians not many has his ability to somehow gain support despite countless gaffs (Hell Milliband was laughed at for eating a bacon sarnie).
With a Brexit department Johnson will be kept away from Europe who have the most hate for him.
Hunt the only reason i can think off is that May is letting him fall on his sword and bringing in her person after as hunt has caused a shyt show.
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No, you are literally saying that the UK will get rights out of the EU, that countries within the EU don't get. It's patently absurd and can be rejected out of hand. Why would they do that? What stops a litany of other countries leaving the EU, wanting the same thing as the UK? It threatens the survival of the EU.
And you make the stakes so much higher than they actually are. We don't have to be in the single market to be able to trade with the EU. Tariffs don't end trade, they just make it harder. Some tariffs make it prohibitively harder, some tariffs only make it marginally harder. We have tariffs with other countries, but still eat their bananas and drink their coffee. The EU will export less to the UK, but it's not soul-searchingly less that it would cause them to risk the future of the EU over.
I reckon May could have cut a deal with Hunt that if he forces the contracts on the junior doctors, takes the brunt of the vitriol, then she'll move him to another brief in the next re-shuffle and he can get his political career back on track.
A bit like what Cameron did with Gove. Was the education secretary for four years and widely disliked. Cameron demoted him to whip in 2014 then brought him back as justice secretary in 2015. And it was working for Gove until he stabbed Johnson in the back.
Actually quite impressed with May in her first day. Speech set the right tone and I quite like the content of it. Some of it could have been used in a speech by a left-winger/liberal. And she's backed up some of her message with her appointments. Justine Greening in and Stephen Crabb out was quite eye catching in this respect. She looks to be banishing the social dinosaurs of the party. Although her attitude towards immigrants, and not yet assuring EU residents in the UK that they can stay, undermines her "one nation Tory" message a little.
Also, is austerity still on the cards? I have absolutely no idea?
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Hahaha they're a funny bunch the lot of them. Love the plastic Paddys. Their idea of Irish is very far from the truth, but a lot of them did proudly grow up in traditional Irish Boroughs, being raised with other people who are proudly Irish American. Who am I to say they're not Irish when their ancestors are probably famine refugees who probably suffered to keep their identity.
On the other hand **** the lot of em like.
Thoughts goes out to those in Nice.
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Yep, very distressing. May and Johnson will be starting a crash course in what their new jobs really involve.
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