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- Feb 7, 2015
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This was Rokoduguni's solution and I'm surprised more sports stars that supposedly have an issue with the specific act of kneeling (and nothing else) haven't done similar. Which is why I think its mainly bullshirt apart from a few people.if the kneeling was just a symbol like the 3 fingers in the air in hunger games, or live long and prosper like in Star Trek, then so be it,
We'll probably get stuck on the movement/organisation point here again so no point in repeating myself. But I disagree with numerous points the BLM oragnisation (the group that own the website) in the US has I think some of thier ideas are counter productive. Other things I agree on. But your not doing that actually your dealing with genralisms and abolsuteisms "you can't disagree with anything they have to say" well you can and I know many people who do. They don't called get racist, I don't think I've called anyone a racist in this conversation (except actual racist groups). It actually doesn't happen, People I've found (espeically in marginalised groups) are actually quite happy to have a conversation about things and listen. Sure like with any oragnisation there are a ton of bad eggs its a bit like Labour and Momentum and I;m fairly certain there a nice people within Momentum. Most Labour party members I know are kind well thinking people. The couple of Momentum people I know can be absolute shits. That doesn't represent Labout as a whole and doesn't represent Momentum either, probably.There is something almost authoritarian/fascist about BLM.
The implication that you cannot possibly disagree with anything they say and if you do not do exactly that they demand then you are a racist,.
Nobody should feel obliged to kneel, nobody should have to explain why they haven;t kneeled.
I agree with Heiniken BTW I have no idea why sporting authorities decided to attach themselves to a movement that within it has organisation that people have issues with (nobody wants to say what those issues are though, some say defund the police but in UK its widely considerered I think even by most left winger as a mad idea unlike say the US where its militarisation is demonstrably part of the problem, different countries different solutions) and not just a wider message of racism within their sport and representation within that. Its a misstep that I think has detracted even here from the more important questions about how we solves thing, We saw a similar issue in the UK real conversations were happening some protesters tore down a statue rightly or wrongly and it was by the governement to stop having sensible conversations and became about bordering up statues and move the conversation away.
With Rugby I want to ask the question why its a predominantly (in the UK) a white upper middle class sport, that barely tries to work with people beyond that especially in the inner cities from people from far less previledged backgrounds. Ebony Rainford-Brent a PoC womens cricketer said that Surrey CC wasn;t talking to schools in its local area and when they did engagement was extremely high so the idea that these places are just not interested is a falsehood.