Heineken Cup talks "have now ended"

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  1. munstermuffin

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    But you see my point in that scenario and realistically it's not impossible as the Regions I think will be weak as they're loosing a lot and can't recruit when they don't have a clue what's happening
     
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    I still don't understand how relegation would work. Even if only one Welsh region in susceptible to relegation every season, there's every chance that the Dragons would be relegated after their first season, where the hell do they play then? What if the Blues go down the following season (on recent Pro12 standings, again a distinct possibility), followed by the Scarlets etc. There doesn't appear to be any deal involving us actually joining the English club system like in football, simply a deal between PRL and RRW about joining the Prem / creating a new competition.

    I think I've come to the conclusion that I have no idea what's happening, nor does anyone else on here, or even any of the bodies involved (WRU, RRW, PRL, RFU etc. etc.). If things carry on like this, England may be in the same position we are in Wales shortly, with huge arguments between the RFU, PRL and Championship clubs, a huge power struggle.
     
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    There are reports that a deal on Europe could he struck next week, which would end all this.
     
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    We can only hope.

    We should all be getting richer and building a stronger, more diverse set of competitions. Not ******* on each other.
     
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    It's never too late for a bit of common sense to break loose ... hopefully ...
     
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    All parties met yesterday at Heathrow. Another meeting planned for next Wednesday but it seems it was extremely positive and lots of parties are gone back to get the "OK" from their unions/boards on whatever has been agreed
     
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    Yup, fingers crossed everyone backs down now and common sense prevails.
     
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    ERC withholding funds from the regions. Shocking. I want no part in a tournament controlled by this organization.
     
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    You're joking? Isn't it legally theirs by right as it's basically money for participating in the HC? Surely this must be one of surely many final nailed in the coffin for the ERC? Regions won't want to be a part of this rubbish!
     
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    My guess is, and I could be wrong, is that they are closing down the ERC, this is probably just an accounting/legal procedure. Seem if a deal on a new European competition is close, that the ERC. Is a goner.
     
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    Same with the english clubs, withholding over 1m currently looks like the toys are out the pram.
     
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    don't think it's a toys out of the pram thing lol

    they have with-held all payments, so also to IRFU and Scottish and French, i presume?

    i think they're going to be closed whatever scenario unfolds, if there is a compromise on European competition next year as reports suggest there will be, it will be governed by the six nations, not the ERC, so the company is being wound down and closed. The accounting and legal mumbo jumbo involved in closing a company (and paying their liabilities etc) are ridiculously complicated.
     
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    Dont think they have, only seen it reported that it effects the Welsh Regions and English clubs
     
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    :rolleyes:





    I'm sure everyone will note a few things.
    - It was unanimous.
    --- Thus, all the unions agreed to it.
    --- PRL* agreed to it.
    --- LNR agreed to it.
    - RRW's child-like policy of not going to the meeting has shown up the situation for what it is.
    - The SRU were not present, I don't know if this means anything.


    The regions are run by people used to getting their own way and not being able to be a constructive and willing partner of a wider organisation.




    *Thats the same PRL that RRW are busy whoring themselves to at the minute.

    Once again, the regions show themselves to be run by the stupidest pack of idiots on the rugby planet. Yet, this place will be full of apologists backing their stance and unable to see the wood for the trees.
     
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    The board members of the ERC have to vote in the best interests of that company, whatever their other interests might be.

    I think this is part of a winding up process, not winding up the English and Welsh, but winding up the ERC as a company. Their position is untenable at this point.
     
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    Tell that to Peter Wheeler. Who had no problem agreeing to the Sky TV contract extension with ERC despite also being on the PRL board that agreed the BT deal.

    Dirty, dirty dealings.


    Possibly.
     
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    I should have prefaced my last post with "In Theory ... "
     
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    Oh I know and agree.

    I'd reckon if the will was there, there could easily be a criminal investigation of Mr Wheeler for his actions over the past couple of years.
     
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    I love you Amiga!
     
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    Out of curiousity, where have you seen it? Have these reports explicitly said it only affects those two?
     
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