Kurtley Beale in Trouble

[Helmy]

Scotty Stevenson: Misogyny? There's a test to prep for

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11342382

I'm not usually big on the New Zealand Herald, but finally someone has said what needed to be said.

 

[goodNumber10]

Scotty Stevenson: Misogyny? There's a test to prep for

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11342382

I'm not usually big on the New Zealand Herald, but finally someone has said what needed to be said.

It's just a long winded way of saying what i said up there ^^^^^^

 

[dasNdanger]

Life is crazy today (family emergency), and I hope to get to those articles that have recently been linked, but only have time for this atm:

regardless of Patston there are two points here:

Q: Was what Beale did ok in a modern work environment?

Answer: No, it was sexist and bullying

Q: Is there a bigger issue with Patston within the ARU set up?

Possibly.

the point is you can't let Beale off his bad behaviour because she's might or might not be a tw*t, and you can't look at ther credentials and suitablitity for the job in the context fo the incident between her and Beale.

For the most part I do agree with this. Beale WAS inappropriate in his behavior and needs to face some sort of discipline, and it seems there is a bigger issue within the ARU. As far as Di's suitability for the job perhaps I am forming erroneous opinions based on her texts and hearsay, so I'll give those other articles a read as soon as I can to see if my opinion changes. For now, I still don't have much confidence in the lady.


das

 

[Big Ewis]

oh hey gahs, whats gong un ?

 

[dasNdanger]

oh hey gahs, whats gong un ?

We've been discussing a member of a particular team who said something stupid and then had a blow-up with a staffer, and got himself banned from playing.

Oh, and we've also been discussing the Beale/ARU situation, too.




das

 

[Big Ewis]

....mehmehmehmehmehmeh !!..

 

[goodNumber10]

hearing was today, 1 positive rep point to the first person who can tell me what the farcical outcome was?

 

[goodNumber10]

actually i can't wait that long here it is:

keeps contract, fined $40,000 despite being found not guilty.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-24/kurtley-beale-wallabies/5840414

 

[Peat]

edit: Ninja'ed...

Not guilty but fined - amazing.

GN10, see the stuff about Beale's texts having been tampered with?

 

[goodNumber10]

No immediate outcome - http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/10/24/kurtley-beale-aru-conduct-hearing-finishes

However, in joyous news for DRAMA fans everywhere, it would appear that the texts have in fact been tampered with - http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/oct/24/kurtley-beale-text-tampered-altered-hearing-told

This is a train crash that keeps on giving.

He was found not guilty and fined $40,000 and keeps his ARU contract, he flys to Europe tomorrow.

 

[squirrel]

poor bloke losing 40k

 

[goodNumber10]

Not guilty but fined - amazing.

exactly, so which is it guilty or not guilty? What ajoke.

GN10, see the stuff about Beale's texts having been tampered with?

yep, i don't' believe for one minute that's what's happened....

 

[goodNumber10]

ok well accroding to this he was found guilty:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>An independent Code of Conduct Tribunal has tonight found Kurtley Beale guilty of a serious violation of the ARU Code of Conduct 1/2</p>&mdash; Qantas Wallabies (@QantasWallabies) <a href="https://twitter.com/QantasWallabies/status/525618859584155648">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>2/2 and handed down a $45,000 fine, for sending an offensive photograph to an ARU employee.</p>&mdash; Qantas Wallabies (@QantasWallabies) <a href="https://twitter.com/QantasWallabies/status/525618929624834048">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Not sure if this one is ok to post here, MODS remove if you're unhappy with it:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Page 2 of the release on <a href="https://twitter.com/kurtley_beale">@kurtley_beale</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/kurtleybeale?src=hash">#kurtleybeale</a> <a href="http://t.co/FIY5JnDtYP">pic.twitter.com/FIY5JnDtYP</a></p>&mdash; Alex Broun (@alexanderbroun) <a href="https://twitter.com/alexanderbroun/status/525617713012416513">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Page 2 of the release on <a href="https://twitter.com/kurtley_beale">@kurtley_beale</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/kurtleybeale?src=hash">#kurtleybeale</a> <a href="http://t.co/FIY5JnDtYP">pic.twitter.com/FIY5JnDtYP</a></p>&mdash; Alex Broun (@alexanderbroun) <a href="https://twitter.com/alexanderbroun/status/525617713012416513">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[dasNdanger]

I'm happy with this. His misconduct wasn't on the field, so the fine rather than suspension is appropriate (though I expected it to be higher). I'm guessing there is a bit more to the story than we'll ever know, but I hope the press releases shed some acceptable light on why he got off relatively easy. No pun intended.


das

 

[TRF_heineken]

hold on. Was this tribunal just about what happened in June? or does it include the interaction on the plane too?

If he didn't send the second picture, then who did??

 

[goodNumber10]

full statement:

http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsAr...ED-45-000-FOR-ARU-CODE-OF-CONDUCT-BREACH.aspx

I'm happy with this. His misconduct wasn't on the field, so the fine rather than suspension is appropriate (though I expected it to be higher). I'm guessing there is a bit more to the story than we'll ever know, but I hope the press releases shed some acceptable light on why he got off relatively easy. No pun intended.

Really disagree Das, he was in the professional environment, they basically said he's been suspended already so they won't suspend him again... it's a terrible outcome for the ARU and the sport.

 

[Draggs]

He will rejoin the Wallabies soon enough and the boys club can start all over again.

 

[Peat]

Whatever problems exist within the wider ARU are still there. Whatever problems exist within the Australian squad are still there. Removing McKenzie and Patston alone won't solve Australia's problems and I'm still incredibly hazy about what's gone on which I suspect means "Everybody acted very badly so we're grateful for this chance to stop things before we have air more dirty laundry".

 

[TRF_heineken]

Cheika should hire an even uglier PA than Patston... that's the only way to go...

 

[Peat]

Because the problem is really all about the gender of the PA.