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wigan_rlfc
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Oh I know plenty about history mate.
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but that there must eventually be arrangements for the handover of Northern Ireland.
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Norway are fine outside the EU, because they've got North Sea oil - note: it wasn't squandered and is an increasingly valuable fall-back. Switzerland are fine as they are, because they're in the geographical heart of the world's biggest market and their highly admired democracy approves of the most twisted scam of all: full banking secrecy. But the Germans still own them.
The biggest conundrum for the UK is the euro, which is likely to overtake the dollar as the world's reserve currency as the oil producing states gradually stick two fingers up to the US. That'll mean more wars in the middle-east, but also the ability of the US to bankroll its armed forces will decline.
As part of the UK, Scotland will only enjoy the benefit of the euro when their English neighbours have felt the full pain of maintaining the overvalued pound and decide to make the switch - could take ten years. Scotland would avoid all that by applying for membership of the euro as an independent state. It would also have to wean itself off welfare culture to meet the entry criteria, but that's desirable in itself. Same goes for Norn Irn.
Flag waving and anthems are strictly for sport. This is about economics: market access, plus market protections. The US has already fired off a few shots against China, and now is the time to head for the high ground BEFORE the dollar dam breaks.
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...what we're saying is that we should do eveything in our legally held powers to pursuade the people of Scotland and Wales that we are better off working together than farting about on our own.
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Give it back to whom exactly, I don't recall it ever being a part of the Republic of Ireland. Northren Ireland has been in the UK since 1801, the free state/republic has only been around since the 1920's.
The UK, 4 countries - One Nation.....Forever.
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Give it back to whom exactly, I don't recall it ever being a part of the Republic of Ireland. Northren Ireland has been in the UK since 1801, the free state/republic has only been around since the 1920's.
The UK, 4 countries - One Nation.....Forever.
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You invaded our land, killed our people, and now you still control part of Ireland that never was your to begin with. The native Irish people owned this land. The native Irish people want it back.
You see politicly, the Republic never owned the North, neither the Free State. But if you did know your history, you would know that the british controled the Pale (Dublin) for years and claimed to rule the whole of Ireland. Anyway years later when the Army was finding it hard in Ireland, there was the plantation. People from Scotland and England were given free land in the North, and so developed into Unionism, kicking the local native Irish off their land. Yes, THEIR native Irish land. Ireland is one island, our island, why do you think the IRA fought for? It makes geographic sence to give our land back and let us reunite our country which you devided. [/b]
Yeah...we're f___ed. When the Euro was introduced 1 Euro = .90 USD, then after around half a year it jumped to 1 Euro = 1.32 USD. It has changed very little since. I work in a business where we import (a tremendous amount from Italy...marble and granites) and it's greatly affected us.Flag waving and anthems are strictly for sport. This is about economics: market access, plus market protections. The US has already fired off a few shots against China, and now is the time to head for the high ground BEFORE the dollar dam breaks.
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Bog off mate. These people came over for the plantations what? 400 years ago. They're as Irish as you or me now. They were given land all over Ireland, not just Ulster.You invaded our land, killed our people, and now you still control part of Ireland that never was your to begin with. The native Irish people owned this land. The native Irish people want it back.
You see politicly, the Republic never owned the North, neither the Free State. But if you did know your history, you would know that the british controled the Pale (Dublin) for years and claimed to rule the whole of Ireland. Anyway years later when the Army was finding it hard in Ireland, there was the plantation. People from Scotland and England were given free land in the North, and so developed into Unionism, kicking the local native Irish off their land. Yes, THEIR native Irish land. Ireland is one island, our island, why do you think the IRA fought for? It makes geographic sence to give our land back and let us reunite our country which you divided.
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Yes we're not arguing about whether we should give the Scots or Welsh the right to hold refferenda, what we're saying is that we should do eveything in our legally held powers to pursuade the people of Scotland and Wales that we are better off working together than farting about on our own. The major conglomerates of continental Europe, America, China and India don't give a flying **** about ancient Scottish or Welsh tradition when they consider investment so it is better to preserve a federal union where each nation has their own national identity preserved and yet has the diplomatic and economic muscle to compete on the world stage as the 4th largest (national) economy on the planet.
(note, California doesn't count because it isn't a nation)
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Dont mean to be picky but we're actually the 5th largest!
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