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jimmy44

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FROM SINGLE PLAYER PERSPECTIVE


Is it just me or are ALL the points about the game in the last week been negative with regards to single player? I mean if its not one thing its the other. Just as a problem with the game comes up and we come to terms with it, another one comes along. I mean how many gameplay faults does rugby 2005 have? Just to remind you...


Short distances of kicks
Bombs and grubber kicks don't work
Sidesteps, fends,hand offs don't work - on classic view (the one I want to play)
tackling animations kicking in preventing you from passing properly
Normal difficulty too easy/ Hard mode too hard
flat footed receiver from the ruck
minimal set play moves from the ruck/scrum/line out - and they don't work
Automatic random rucks again
Mauls don't work
AI kicks all the time
passes going to ground before the line is set - resulting in slow gameplay
limited camera angles
lack of breaks and 'running rugby' on classic view

...and thats just the gameplay issues. we havn't even seen the problems with regards to tournaments, player editor etc.

I'm really not trying be negative here, but when you put all these problems together, how can this game possibly be any good? I know its better on multiplayer, but not ALL of us play these games on multiplayer.

I just wonder what the next bad point will be? The game probably crashes every time you score a try!!

Nice one HB, if only there was an award for c£$p game developing - you would be world champions every time!


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sean43

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Finally someone who is starting to see that this game is poor. People keep saying I dont have a clue and wait till I have played it, no!. You people are in denial just because you want a good rugby game to play-you aint got it this time.

HB Studios are truly awful and EA should not use them again. And before someone says it wait till I play it, I am very confident that people will be on here in a months time saying how crap it is
 
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captainamerica

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From Locks, in sean43s initial thread about the game being subpar a couple days ago:

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I have no doubt in my mind that most of the people on this forum will think that RUGBY 2005 is the best thing in the world ever. Others, however, will not! There will be those people who are expecting the world with this game, and they will be let down! Rugby 2005 is NOT the greatest sports game ever to appear, nor is it the worst (I think we all know which one THAT could be!!! ) but it's a damn fine Rugby game!

Thing is, opinions differ wildy and it'll be no exception when it comes to Rugby05! The only time you can say whether you like the game is when you have played it![/b]

The good thing is that R*gby 2**4 was released, and those that have played Rugby 2005 know this.

Now, everyone is saying that 2005 is much better than 2**4, which apparently isn't saying much but it's a good step forward. I think how forward that step is is going to be down to the individual gamer after playing it, but aren't they saying it's better than 2001 as well?

Honestly, I cannot see judgement being given till you've actually played it. Rent it/Hire it/Borrow it from a friend if you don't want to buy it, but definitely have a go on it yourself. I think some of the criticisms could be down to personal taste, but again, who can say?
 
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Gay-Guy

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I have to give you your freedom of speech thingy.....I know what it is like being on the side who dislikes a game as I was against Halo 2 before it was released and used to get crap on those forums. In the end I was happy with some things and not happy with others.

All of our opinions whether good or bad are worthless unless we are the elite few that have played the game. The rest of us are talking from an observational point of view and have not yet received the full experience.

Let us wait till next month with our opinions and let those who have played it have their say.
 
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kinkon89

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wen the game comes out why dont u buy it play it after an hour come back and there will be a thread waiting for u 2 ppl (sean43 and jimmy44)

there u will be saying "this game is mad!!!! best rugby game evahhh!!!"

then we will be saying "see see wat did we tell u b4 huh!!!"

then u guys will say "please burn all the posts we said b4 we are very sorry!"

and then we will say "leave our forum! leave i tell you leeeeeeeave"
and then we will ban u for eternity


*im joking bout the last sentence
 
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jonwebb

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Originally posted by jimmy44@Feb 23 2005, 07:37 AM
FROM SINGLE PLAYER PERSPECTIVE


Is it just me or are ALL the points about the game in the last week been negative with regards to single player? I mean if its not one thing its the other. Just as a problem with the game comes up and we come to terms with it, another one comes along. I mean how many gameplay faults does rugby 2005 have?  Just to remind you...


Short distances of kicks
Bombs and grubber kicks don't work
Sidesteps, fends,hand offs don't work - on classic view (the one I want to play)
tackling animations kicking in preventing you from passing properly
Normal difficulty too easy/ Hard mode too hard
flat footed receiver from the ruck
minimal set play moves from the ruck/scrum/line out - and they don't work
Automatic random rucks again
Mauls don't work
AI kicks all the time
passes going to ground before the line is set - resulting in slow gameplay
limited camera angles
lack of breaks and 'running rugby' on classic view

...and thats just the gameplay issues. we havn't even seen the problems with regards to tournaments, player editor etc.

I'm really not trying be negative here, but when you put all these problems together, how can this game possibly be any good? I know its better on multiplayer, but not ALL of us play these games on multiplayer.

I just wonder what the next bad point will be? The game probably crashes every time you score a try!!

Nice one HB, if only there was an award for c£$p game developing - you would be world champions every time!


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Is this based on actually playing the game?
 
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Sorp222

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Am expecting this game to be better than 2005 but still not a particularly good game. I will still buy it becuase it is rugby and i want to encourage EA to take this market seriously and throw some resources at Rugby 2006. Unfortunately i rememember the hype before 2004 and WCR and the nonsense that was posted about them - and the disappointment afterwards. I hope i am wrong but will not hold my breath.
 
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locksley

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Originally posted by jimmy44@Feb 23 2005, 07:37 AM
FROM SINGLE PLAYER PERSPECTIVE


Is it just me or are ALL the points about the game in the last week been negative with regards to single player? I mean if its not one thing its the other. Just as a problem with the game comes up and we come to terms with it, another one comes along. I mean how many gameplay faults does rugby 2005 have? Just to remind you...


Short distances of kicks
Bombs and grubber kicks don't work
Sidesteps, fends,hand offs don't work - on classic view (the one I want to play)
tackling animations kicking in preventing you from passing properly
Normal difficulty too easy/ Hard mode too hard
flat footed receiver from the ruck
minimal set play moves from the ruck/scrum/line out - and they don't work
Automatic random rucks again
Mauls don't work
AI kicks all the time
passes going to ground before the line is set - resulting in slow gameplay
limited camera angles
lack of breaks and 'running rugby' on classic view

...and thats just the gameplay issues. we havn't even seen the problems with regards to tournaments, player editor etc.

I'm really not trying be negative here, but when you put all these problems together, how can this game possibly be any good? I know its better on multiplayer, but not ALL of us play these games on multiplayer.

I just wonder what the next bad point will be? The game probably crashes every time you score a try!!

Nice one HB, if only there was an award for c£$p game developing - you would be world champions every time!


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Let me put you straight on a couple of points!!!

Short distances of kicks

True! You can't do a 100 metre kick downfield, but they're not as short as I first thought!

Bombs and grubber kicks don't work

Hmmmm! Bombs aren't too hot, but grubber kicks DO work!

Sidesteps, fends,hand offs don't work - on classic view (the one I want to play)

Granted, steps aren't much cop on that view, but fends and shoulder charges work if you're in the right situation!

tackling animations kicking in preventing you from passing properly

Yes, this is a slight problem, but it's only really noticable on Hard mode

Normal difficulty too easy/ Hard mode too hard

Normal mode is much harder than the hard mode on Rugby 2004!!! Also, Hard mode is very hard, but I was wrong with my initial response! After extended play, you can find gaps, make breaks etc.... Still haven't won a game on Hard yet tho!

flat footed receiver from the ruck

True, but it doesn't annoy you as much as you think it would when you actually play the game!

minimal set play moves from the ruck/scrum/line out - and they don't work

There's 4 choices of set play. each with 4 variations! That gives you 16 different options at a set play! And, you're wrong, they DO work! The last part of that statement of yours simply can not be said when you haven't actually played the game!

Automatic random rucks again

Yes, they do seem automatic, but if you wait too long before passing and don't add enough men, you'l lose the ball! They're much better than 2004's awful rucks!

Mauls don't work

What do you mean?

AI kicks all the time

Not true!

passes going to ground before the line is set - resulting in slow gameplay

Not all the time! And anyway, you always have the choice to pick up with the number 8 or pass it to a forward while you're waiting for the line to get ready! That way, on the next tackle you can throw a long pass out cos the backs won't have been used on the previous phase of play and will be already set!

limited camera angles

I'll give you that one! True

lack of breaks and 'running rugby' on classic view

Again, not true! You just have to work harder!
 
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Gandalf

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Yeah, tell 'em locks!! Guys, wait till WE'VE played the game before assuming to much!
 
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jimmy44

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Originally posted by locksley+Feb 23 2005, 09:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (locksley @ Feb 23 2005, 09:55 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-jimmy44
@Feb 23 2005, 07:37 AM
FROM SINGLE PLAYER PERSPECTIVE


Is it just me or are ALL the points about the game in the last week been negative with regards to single player? I mean if its not one thing its the other. Just as a problem with the game comes up and we come to terms with it, another one comes along. I mean how many gameplay faults does rugby 2005 have?  Just to remind you...


Short distances of kicks
Bombs and grubber kicks don't work
Sidesteps, fends,hand offs don't work - on classic view (the one I want to play)
tackling animations kicking in preventing you from passing properly
Normal difficulty too easy/ Hard mode too hard
flat footed receiver from the ruck
minimal set play moves from the ruck/scrum/line out - and they don't work
Automatic random rucks again
Mauls don't work
AI kicks all the time
passes going to ground before the line is set - resulting in slow gameplay
limited camera angles
lack of breaks and 'running rugby' on classic view

...and thats just the gameplay issues. we havn't even seen the problems with regards to tournaments, player editor etc.

I'm really not trying be negative here, but when you put all these problems together, how can this game possibly be any good? I know its better on multiplayer, but not ALL of us play these games on multiplayer.

I just wonder what the next bad point will be? The game probably crashes every time you score a try!!

Nice one HB, if only there was an award for c£$p game developing - you would be world champions every time!


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Let me put you straight on a couple of points!!!

Short distances of kicks

True! You can't do a 100 metre kick downfield, but they're not as short as I first thought!

Bombs and grubber kicks don't work

Hmmmm! Bombs aren't too hot, but grubber kicks DO work!

Sidesteps, fends,hand offs don't work - on classic view (the one I want to play)

Granted, steps aren't much cop on that view, but fends and shoulder charges work if you're in the right situation!

tackling animations kicking in preventing you from passing properly

Yes, this is a slight problem, but it's only really noticable on Hard mode

Normal difficulty too easy/ Hard mode too hard

Normal mode is much harder than the hard mode on Rugby 2004!!! Also, Hard mode is very hard, but I was wrong with my initial response! After extended play, you can find gaps, make breaks etc.... Still haven't won a game on Hard yet tho!

flat footed receiver from the ruck

True, but it doesn't annoy you as much as you think it would when you actually play the game!

minimal set play moves from the ruck/scrum/line out - and they don't work

There's 4 choices of set play. each with 4 variations! That gives you 16 different options at a set play! And, you're wrong, they DO work! The last part of that statement of yours simply can not be said when you haven't actually played the game!

Automatic random rucks again

Yes, they do seem automatic, but if you wait too long before passing and don't add enough men, you'l lose the ball! They're much better than 2004's awful rucks!

Mauls don't work

What do you mean?

AI kicks all the time

Not true!

passes going to ground before the line is set - resulting in slow gameplay

Not all the time! And anyway, you always have the choice to pick up with the number 8 or pass it to a forward while you're waiting for the line to get ready! That way, on the next tackle you can throw a long pass out cos the backs won't have been used on the previous phase of play and will be already set!

limited camera angles

I'll give you that one! True

lack of breaks and 'running rugby' on classic view

Again, not true! You just have to work harder! [/b]
Now thats more like it!! It just seems to me there are loads of mixed messages about single player. No offense to you Locks. I guess things change when you play a bit longer.

I was just judging things on what I have seen and read about single player, which I think is fair enough isn't it? However, I havn't played the game so really my arguments should be taken with a pinch of salt. I suppose you could say that about everyone else's comments on this forum!

I really hope come the 4th of March that all my negative points get blown out of the water!!

Cheers
 
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raziel_eire

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I think locksley, your last post there should be the final nail in the nay-saying coffin...

you've stated, in a pretty emphatic way, that the game does work - its not perfect - but it works and can be very enjoyable (on normal or hard), and for that I'm very grateful

now ... lets all take a moment to think about those nay-sayers as we lay them to rest, deep (6ft +) below the surface... anyone care to say a few words?
 
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jimmy44

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Originally posted by raziel_eire@Feb 24 2005, 01:29 AM
I think locksley, your last post there should be the final nail in the nay-saying coffin...

you've stated, in a pretty emphatic way, that the game does work - its not perfect - but it works and can be very enjoyable (on normal or hard), and for that I'm very grateful

now ... lets all take a moment to think about those nay-sayers as we lay them to rest, deep (6ft +) below the surface... anyone care to say a few words?
Yes, get rid of people like you so we can have an active forum, with members who don't all have the same opinions.
 
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raziel_eire

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go read my other post jimmy before sniping ...

under the thread " 2005 like 2004???? I don't think so! "
 
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jimmy44

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Originally posted by raziel_eire@Feb 24 2005, 01:46 AM
go read my other post jimmy before sniping ...

under the thread " 2005 like 2004???? I don't think so! "
Apologies mate, had a bad day, terrible toothache
 
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raziel_eire

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no bother...

I always took cocodamol (or cocodamine) for toothaches dude... its strong stuff, but if its painful enuff I think its justifed!

(not that I condone the use of drugs of course!)
 
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jimmy44

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Originally posted by raziel_eire@Feb 24 2005, 04:35 AM
no bother...

I always took cocodamol (or cocodamine) for toothaches dude... its strong stuff, but if its painful enuff I think its justifed!

(not that I condone the use of drugs of course!)
Yea thats good stuff - bloody Nurofen plus is useless. Went to the dentist yesterday expecting to get a few painkillers and check over, and they went and pulled it out! I'll be haunted forever by the sound of crunching bone and tooth OUUUUUCH!!
 
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captainamerica

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Originally posted by jimmy44+Feb 24 2005, 04:44 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jimmy44 @ Feb 24 2005, 04:44 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-raziel_eire
@Feb 24 2005, 04:35 AM
no bother...

I always took cocodamol (or cocodamine) for toothaches dude... its strong stuff, but if its painful enuff I think its justifed!

(not that I condone the use of drugs of course!)
Yea thats good stuff - bloody Nurofen plus is useless. Went to the dentist yesterday expecting to get a few painkillers and check over, and they went and pulled it out! I'll be haunted forever by the sound of crunching bone and tooth OUUUUUCH!!
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Dude that sucks. Went to get a root canal a few weeks back and . . .

it was one of the most enjoyable dental experiences I've ever had. Seriously. But before I went, the pain was evil. EVIL.

Back to topic cause I forget if I addressed the single-player thing with ya. Singleplayer is how I'll be playing (don't think the wife fancies her chances against me). I've taken on board all the sentiments expressed and even if worse comes to worse, medium is to easy and hard is too hard, I think I'll still enjoy the game because it still appears to be fluid and fun. I could spank teams in Rugby 2001, JLR, etc but still found that I really enjoyed playing the game, all by my lonesome.

It seems a definite improvement, and I've enjoyed the videos thus far, so we'll see how it plays when we get it, but I think it's gonna be fine. I might eat that last statement though.
 
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