Discussion in 'The Clubhouse Bar' started by St Helens RLFC, Jun 30, 2007.
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c***s... Gonna kill village pubs
agree with you SHRLFC
they did it here already and the pubs village or city are still running without a major problem
No offence DC but its an entirely different culture there to here...
I feel it hasn't been handled in the best possible way... It should of been consulted, for instance why not just allow buildings to have a smoking room, which of course would have to have a very good ventilation system...
I do agree with it in the main, but I am afraid this Government is killing of the countryside way of life in England...
Yeah, IMO this ban goes too far, whats wrong with designated smoking rooms which non-smokers don't have to go in?
unless there is a door on those rooms the point of having them is for the most part useless
air continually circulates and the smoke will eventually leave the room and empty into where people are eating and drinking.
now i think they should have perhaps allowed smoking in certain pubs, but i deffinately agree with banning it all together in a eatery. if you can't go 40 minutes to an hour without lighting up something is seriously wrong with you.
God damn f***ing lefties. Oh, the law starts at 6am, not midnight.
And also, STFU DC. If you had any idea about how this will affect the rural life in England, you wouldn't say anything like that... This law will put many hard working people out of a livelyhood.
On a final note, for the bullshit stirers and hypocrites of this world, this law is supposedly there to "protect" the staff and patrons on bars; People go into these places by choice - Nobody forces them to enter. Nobody forced them to take the job. They know what a bar is like, smokey and dank, so deal with it.
While I agree with stopping smoking in shopping centres and where food is served, this law was only designed to win votes for Labour to pull in the obnoxous socialists as they were falling behind in the polls. Public health? The tax revinue that the government makes off the sale of cigarettes alone funds more then the NHS is given each year; Should smoking be banned each of us would have to pay an extra 2 1/2 p in every pound just to make up the short fall. People will lose their jobs because of this, all so the most corrupt government in the history of "Great" Britain can scrape another election.
Drinkers will be the next to feel the wrath of Labours wrath, mark my words.
f***ing leftie ********.
what do people do at a bar, do they go there to drink or do they go there to smoke?
i'll be willing to bet that it wont impact it at all
they used the same exact arguments here when that bill was going to be passed, and really it hasnt done anything, your still going to get the same amount of people in a bar on the night of a big soccer match as you would if they still allowed smoking.
and ill tell you what i love about it, is going to a restuarant and not having to smell the smoke from someones cigarette blowing in my face. people need to learn this isnt their living room and they cannot do whatever the f*** they want, maybe they should be mindful of how it impacts other people in the small little hole in the wall pubs.
you tend to think i dont know what im talking about teh mite, but actually i do so stop being an arrogant asshole and trying to tell me what to do
and im sure if worse comes to worse theyll rope off a little section outside and let you smoke outside so you can aid your lung cancer
Yeah, because you drink in an English bar 3 days a week, don't you?? You know exactly the way WE feel about the situation.
You may know about bars in the US (although you're below American drinking age, so that shouldn't be the case), but you know f*** all about the English pub culture.
Yes, because if you cant smoke, you cant drink!
Im sure all your bitching and moaning will be put to ease in a week or so.
Something tells me you miss your friend.
are we talking the one that you had to find a reason to ban
The Law is intended to cut deaths from second-hand smoke...
So come on people how many people die from second hand smoke in a year...
oh well Doctors estimate second-hand smoke kills more than 600 people a year.
Wow that is Huge amount of people considering the UK Population is 60,776,238....
I am not a smoker but been brought up with pub life in the countryside, its alright all these people saying they will go into the pub now it is smoke free, but the truth the majority will go in once a month if even that, whereas the rural pub loses say 5 people who go in regular for 5 pints or such every night, they will probably not gain anything, they will in effect lose Â£75 a night from trade, it doesn't sound a lot but that would usually only cover the costs of the landlord... then there is the additional money lost from pool tables and fruit machines and jukeboxes.
I feel there should of been a bit more sense around this, like there should of been more thought around the well enforced Fox Hunting Ban, which actually stop the police from doing real work, like catching real criminals...
I would love somebody to show me one piece of conclusive evidence than anyone has ever been killed by second hand smoke.
Oh, wait, there isn't any.
Man you guys are making a fuss over this, we had the same situation here, everybody ******* and moaning people will lose jobs, places will close, and what happened... **** all. It's actually made places a lot better to go to, and ironically has made bars incorporate areas to their establishments that actually atract more patrons, even non-smokers. Garden bars, or top stories with a raised roof, have added a bit of class to some places and added some variety. Haven't heard one person say they wished it was back the way it was... and we've had this now for quite a while, think us and Ireland were first to incorporate it? You'll get over it soon enough, might takes a few weeks.
Am guessing the one's who've got a problem with it are all the smokers... here's something you'll love then, enjoy now being able to take in everyones body odour and flatulence lol
Well Wales have had the ban for a couple of months now & for us non-smokers its great. Many pubs feared that alot of regular (smoking) customers would stop going there, but it hasn't stopped them. Alot of pubs have gained as more non smokers are going there now as they where put off by smokers in the bar.
In our workplace we had a small smoking room (before the ban) & it had no ventilation at all. Over the years it became more & more disgusting with stained yellow walls & blinds in the window. As soon as you opened the door you was greeted with a overwhelming smell of smoke.
Now the smoking room has been locked & a smoking shelter has been placed outside. Alot of smokers are fine by this (as long as it is sunny).
For the first couple of weeks many people in England will be against it, but after a couple of weeks they will acknowledge the ban.
yea and its the same in america, but i forgot i dont live in the uk, therfor i have no idea what im talking about
Cardiff was absolutely fabulous. Smoke free. Brilliant.
Ye gods, I wonder when this load of shite is coming to SA. I mean, we seem to follow all of these leftist laws over here, so the smoking ban in BARS AND RESTAURANTS can`t be that far off.
So the good doctors reckon that there are 600 deaths related to secondary smoke per year? So that now makes sense to ban smoking.
Well that`s excellent reasoning. But how many drinking-related deaths are there per annum? Motor vehicle accidents, drunken brawls etc. So let`s just ban alcohol while we`re at it.
Or how about HIV-related deaths? Hmmm, I know- let`s just ban sex too, since that can result in death too. Brilliant reasoning there.
Yeah, i'm not sure it's had a negative effect on any of the pubs in the rural areas of Wales, and from a selfish point of view it's a breath of fresh air (pun intended) to leave a place like that not smelling of smoke.
I'm all for it personally, i think it's a great move.
I fecking hate it when people smoke next to me.
Why should i be subjected to their cigarette smoke whilst eating my food.
It's a joy, in my opinion - I couldn't care about the politics of it all.
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