Summer tours - England

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Evans at quins?

Traitor to Norfolk

 

[Geordie]

3 Best 7's in English rugby
Curry
Curry
Reffell

is Ludlum a 7...or a 6 or a mix? He's been playing very well...aggressive and bulked up.

But for me...Ben Curry has to be in the summer squad if hes fit.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Tommy Reffell not in the Wales squad

Just sayin

 

[BPM]

Definitely the type of trolling Eddie likes to indulge in ... I wouldn't put it past him picking Reffell.

I wouldn't - not because I don't rate him, but because he's Welsh and we have plenty of very good options who are actually English.

For real?
Missed that, damn

I don't mind it. He's only 31 so plenty young enough for the RWC and the nature of the game in Japan is probably doing him a few favours in improving his skill set in a less physical environment.

I'm almost certain he'll be back at Saracens for the 22/23 season.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I'd be surprised if Reffell decided to be a turncoat tbh. Sounds like he considers himself Welsh through and through but he'd make a lot more money staying in England and you can't blame players for thinking about the finances. Short careers and all that.

If I was him I'd still be thinking it's just as competitive in the back row for England as it is Wales so better off just carry on doing what he's doing for Leicester in the hope of getting a call up next year or something. Though he might have to come back to stand a better chance. Not sure what Pivacs thoughts on that is

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

I'd be surprised if Reffell decided to be a turncoat tbh. Sounds like he considers himself Welsh through and through but he'd make a lot more money staying in England and you can't blame players for thinking about the finances. Short careers and all that.

If I was him I'd still be thinking it's just as competitive in the back row for England as it is Wales so better off just carry on doing what he's doing for Leicester in the hope of getting a call up next year or something. Though he might have to come back to stand a better chance. Not sure what Pivacs thoughts on that is

Also realistically if he wants to win a world cup or have an international career of real note England is the obvious choice

 

[Welsh Exile]

Also realistically if he wants to win a world cup or have an international career of real note England is the obvious choice

Yeah, but he might get fed up of playing in stadiums that have actual fans that watch the game. He might fancy a more quiet, fanless vibe in Wales to take his game to the next level.

 

[BPM]

Im not sure Wells is international level. I think he's a perfect match for Tigers....big aggresive lock, and suits the way Borthwick wants to bring back the old tigers nastyness in the pack.
The fact he'll not likely be called up makes him perfect as he's always available.

Agree on this.

He's the definition of an England A player for me.

I'd put Sean Robinson in the same category. They're like Beaumont and Slater were a few years ago. Good, but A team not full squad.

With Ribbans' ban putting him out for at least the first couple of games, I'd back one or both of Wells or Robinson to make the squad and I'd be happy enough to see them here.

 

[LIONSxv]

3 Best 7's in English rugby
Curry
Curry
Reffell

Id still have J Willis, Earl and Underhill a fair way ahead of Reffell. Although Underhill plays more like a small 6

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

IDK for me Willis and Underhill would be better at 6 for my teams. (Also this season Willis has missed most of it).

Earl isn't an out and out 7 in my eyes.

 

[LIONSxv]

IDK for me Willis and Underhill would be better at 6 for my teams. (Also this season Willis has missed most of it).

Earl isn't an out and out 7 in my eyes.

Willis is definitely a 7 , he is by far and away the best player in Europe over the ball. A bit of a freak really. He is a big 7 I'll give you that.
Earl is more a classic link man 7, he runs great support lines, scores tries, good hands etc

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'm going cold on Earl tbh,
Everyone fit he doesn't make me 23/maybe not even my EPS

I'm on the Tom Willis hype train atm

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Why can't a 6 be good over the ball also?

 

[Welsh Exile]

I think the number on the back of your shirt matters less and less as the years go on. Especially 6 and 7. I have always seen Underhill as more of a 6 though if pushed but it doesn't really matter much these days imo.

 

[LIONSxv]

Why can't a 6 be good over the ball also?

They can , I would sooner the 6 be making the tackle or clearing the ruck, or taking line outs instead of lurking on the fringes looking for turnovers.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

So EJ has added Ed Robinson (assistant backs coach at Jersey Reds) as attack coach and Alex Codling (unattached, ex-Ealing coach, and has worked with England u20 and Harlequins in the past) as lineout coach

Robinson was skills coach during the 6N, so obviously passed his trial with flying colours...

Pretty underwhelming, but we'll see how it goes I guess

 

[Welsh Exile]

Tommy Reffell not in the Wales squad

Just sayin

Wales refuse to select Tommy Reffell just to keep him out of England's clutches

Leicester's Tommy Reffell has missed out on a place in the Wales squad for next month’s Tests against Canada and Argentina

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[TRF_Olyy]

What about picking him because he's the best option there?

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Why would he want to play for England if he is truly welsh?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Why would he want to play for England if he is truly welsh?

Cause most true Welsh folks wish they were English.