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**** sorry hahaha the industry is full of BS terminology.

Essentially, synthetic opiods are so cheap to produce, and so incredibly strong it will beat out traditional drug use at some point.

Naloxone treats overdose, in my line of work I come across users regularly, but until last year never came across anyone who had overdosed, now it seems to be a regular occupancy.

CAVDAS reported to us recently that they have given out more Naloxone (pebble and injection forms) in the last 12 months than the 12 years before.

Part of that will be awareness and training obviously, but ODs are increasing at a rate of knots, and its mostly down to synthetics.
That sounds grim
 
They said the same about crack. It took off to a degree but never the extent of the US.

I think people who use coke and cannabis don't see themselves in the same way. Especially compared with other drugs.

Thats what i hear regularly, crack and meth havnt surfaced yet, and wont. and let's hope so.

I didnt realise how rife Coke was until recently, its not a drug I come across with homeless people, they tend to go cheap and cheerful.

I came across 2 police officers a few years ago, coked off their heads, bragging about lawyers, other officers, judges etc... then I ran into a local Coke dealer in a south wales town, working as a clerk in the courts lol.

Really opened my eyes, I always thought it was a youngster grow out of it type of drug, how wrong I was lol.
 
That sounds grim

You want to see them return from the overdose, last guy was so angry I ruined his high he started swinging lol. I had to restrain him and ended up pinning him until he calmed.

The death rattle was what scared me, I still hear it sometimes when im on the edge of sleep, and perk up worried its me.
 
Thats what i hear regularly, crack and meth havnt surfaced yet, and wont. and let's hope so.

I didnt realise how rife Coke was until recently, its not a drug I come across with homeless people, they tend to go cheap and cheerful.

I came across 2 police officers a few years ago, coked off their heads, bragging about lawyers, other officers, judges etc... then I ran into a local Coke dealer in a south wales town, working as a clerk in the courts lol.

Really opened my eyes, I always thought it was a youngster grow out of it type of drug, how wrong I was lol.
Coke is ******* everywhere. I'm starting to think I'm the only person who doesn't take it. My eldest is an apprentice bricklayer who likes football and going out with the lads...... really worried he goes down that road
 
Coke is ******* everywhere. I'm starting to think I'm the only person who doesn't take it. My eldest is an apprentice bricklayer who likes football and going out with the lads...... really worried he goes down that road

Ye, my brother has a construction company that I help with, I dont go near site or anything, but he reckons 50% -60% of anyone under 30, or any scaffolding or brick layer bumps a few times a day.

I had a friend I hadn't seen for 15 years, he always loved a line on a night out, typical roid head builder type, lovely sweet guy who just got absolutely off his head. He was partial to the odd bit and a trip to a brothel at lunch time, at 25, single and free no harm no foul. He was found a few years ago dead lying on top of his van in a lane, coke in his system, had been on CCTV in the same spots he was going in his 20s, the difference was his wife and 2 kids at home. Very sad to see he couldn't beat that.
 
Coke is ******* everywhere. I'm starting to think I'm the only person who doesn't take it. My eldest is an apprentice bricklayer who likes football and going out with the lads...... really worried he goes down that road

Sorry that like wasnt meant to have liked the risk of your son...

What I would say, is good values go a long way. If he has the confidence and will to tell the others to bugger off he'll be ok. Peer pressure, especially in the football groups is strong though. Theres a big difference though in a dabble, and spiralling down the drain, so overreacting wouldnt help.

Like you though I have a young daughter, and an even younger one (probably one of the youngest lol) and I worry about unhealthy relationships, drugs, peer pressure etc... my partner keeps reminding me its because i see the worst of society, so see the worst in society, but it doesn't hurt to stay vigilant, but believe in your parenting instilling an ethical standpoint in your child thay will stand them good sted.
 
They said the same about crack. It took off to a degree but never the extent of the US.

I think people who use coke and cannabis don't see themselves in the same way. Especially compared with other drugs.
Meth has never really been a thing here to but from my understanding pretty problematic in Eastern Europe and America

I know nothing about drugs I've never taken any and anyone I knew who did it was cocaine or weed.
 
Anyway... rugby Saturday
Better still...


I find it amazing (not positive or negative connotations) that Trump can be dealing with so many foreign and domestic issues, trade deals, internal squabbling, national guard arguments, brokering peace, and a battle against higher education.

Whether you love him or hate him, you have to admit, this fucker is getting **** done, rightly or wrongly. Biden fielding questions about his ice cream selection was a highlight, but daily Trump is causing world wide headlines for his involvements in massive issues.

To have this energy at his age is unreal!
 
My Dad the same, trying to stop is actually what killed him - addiction is very misunderstood in general
Couldn't convince her to stop or that she was an alcoholic. She'd finish work and just drink but as she didnt wake up to drink she wouldbt accept she was. Drinking culture was also very diffrent if came of age 70's/80's.

First time she presented to a doctor with alcohol related illness she was dead within a month. Wasn't even allowed to go on a donor list (not that I think it would of helped). So had zero chance to do anything even if she could.
 
Couldn't convince her to stop or that she was an alcoholic. She'd finish work and just drink but as she didnt wake up to drink. Drinking culture was also very diffrent if came of age 70's/80's.

First time she presented to a doctor with alcohol related illness she was dead within a month. Wasn't even allowed to go on a donor list (not that I think it would of helped). So had zero chance to do anything even if she could.
Yeah, very similar story to my Dad, likely sameish age/grew up in the same culture
"Liked a drink" but "didn't have a problem", was a functioning alcoholic until he wasn't and then a pretty sharp deterioration over a few months

Alcoholism very misunderstood, how easy people can slip into it and also how dangerous it can be - think I read that going cold turkey from alcohol dependency is more dangerous than most (all?) "mainstream" drugs



Very off topic now though, not really US politics related
 
Couldn't convince her to stop or that she was an alcoholic. She'd finish work and just drink but as she didnt wake up to drink she wouldbt accept she was. Drinking culture was also very diffrent if came of age 70's/80's.

First time she presented to a doctor with alcohol related illness she was dead within a month. Wasn't even allowed to go on a donor list (not that I think it would of helped). So had zero chance to do anything even if she could.

You have my sincere condolences bud, going through similar myself.

I think it's a generational thing, if i dont need a drink when I wake up its not alcoholism. If I can wait till 5pm, I have enough will power, every attempt at stopping at all creates murder and its always someone else's fault
 
Worst thing is the stuff it's cut with. Where I worked we drug tested coke to prove it was a controlled drug rather than just baking powder

Nothing ever came back more than 5% most was 2% at best. Cut with baking powder, vim, baby milk formula all sorts.
One of the main reasons I'm in favour of legalising, legislating, and taxing them
 
Alcoholism very misunderstood, how easy people can slip into it and also how dangerous it can be - think I read that going cold turkey from alcohol dependency is more dangerous than most (all?) "mainstream" drugs
Yeah, you can't just stop if you're dependant. There's a risk of seizures and death because the brain starts overproducing a chemical that alcohol suppresses. Look up Delirium Tremens if you're curious
 

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