A Political Thread pt. 2

[Welsh Exile]

I'm no oil painting but compared to AWJ, my passport photo looks Brad Pitt

I respect your hubris.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I think they've been used as a bogey man for a while, like we dont all have photo ID on a national database lol.

Its online where the problem will come, fist lose anonymity, then the sociql credit score...

No more swearing online, public order offence, at least 4 of you (us)would be in the gulag hahaha

FTFM

Sometimes you speak like you’re a Russian or a ordinary dude living under the CCP

 

[Which Tyler]

Really don't see the issue with national ID cards.

I've o problem with them I principle, it's just that the last time it was suggested was (by memory) a terrible implementation at a terrible cost, for no apparent benefit.

Blair's lot wanted things like biometric data, and medical history on them (or at least, that was the scare story being out out, in a more innocent age), which was bad.

I still dont see what purpose a national ID card provides though, to be worth the fortune spent bringing one about.

 

[Saintjay]

I've o problem with them I principle, it's just that the last time it was suggested was (by memory) a terrible implementation at a terrible cost, for no apparent benefit.

Blair's lot wanted things like biometric data, and medical history on them (or at least, that was the scare story being out out, in a more innocent age), which was bad.

I still dont see what purpose a national ID card provides though, to be worth the fortune spent bringing one about.

I think if it was combined with your passport / driving licence it might be an idea.

It would potentially help with fraud, immigration, employment and crime issues.

I agree it would really have to be looked at as cost vs benefit.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I think if it was combined with your passport / driving licence it might be an idea.

It would potentially help with fraud, immigration, employment and crime issues.

I agree it would really have to be looked at as cost vs benefit.

Cost = A lot
Benefit = Annoy Harry.

 

[Saintjay]

Cost = A lot
Benefit = Annoy Harry.

That's because he wants to be able to knock one out to AWJ in total anonymity. Without the world knowing his real names Keith born in Gloucester

 

[dirty harry]

Sometimes you speak like you're a Russian or a ordinary dude living under the CCP

Someone told me that about 20 years ago when I railed against CCTV culture, phone tracking systems and meta data collection, ANPR, facial recognition, and more recently predictive policing...

Now look, every single one of those has made us the most surveiled and tracked population the world has ever seen...

But hey, as long as Facebook is still free right.

 

[dirty harry]

Cost = A lot
Benefit = Annoy Harry.

Im not against ID cards, they already exist in different names, its when biometrics, and your entire history, with predicted law breaking future behaviours all enter the chat is when it gets scary...

 

[Welsh Exile]

Someone told me that about 20 years ago when I railed against CCTV culture, phone tracking systems and meta data collection, ANPR, facial recognition, and more recently predictive policing...

Now look, every single one of those has made us the most surveiled and tracked population the world has ever seen...

But hey, as long as Facebook is still free right.

And now you’re rallying against infringements on free speech and overall government control. Jesus, in another 20 years it’ll be even worse. Oh no.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Im not against ID cards, they already exist in different names, its when biometrics, and your entire history, with predicted law breaking future behaviours all enter the chat is when it gets scary...

Indeed, which is why we need to protect democracy at all costs and oppose authoritarianism, right?

 

[McTallshort]

Im not against ID cards, they already exist in different names, its when biometrics, and your entire history, with predicted law breaking future behaviours all enter the chat is when it gets scary...

You mean your mobile phone?

 

[dirty harry]

You mean your mobile phone?

 

[dirty harry]

Indeed, which is why we need to protect democracy at all costs and oppose authoritarianism, right?

Thats right! We need to ensure Daddy protects us from the establishment

 

[Welsh Exile]

Thats right! We need to ensure Daddy protects us from the establishment

That will JD’s line when he torches the constitution and installs himself as POTUS for life.

 

[dirty harry]

That will JD's line when he torches the constitution and installs himself as POTUS for life.

I cant be too critical of a man named JD, thats what i wanted to call my daughter...

 

[Welsh Exile]

I cant be too critical of a man named JD, thats what i wanted to call my daughter...

Peasants whiskey.

Bells, now that is a classy man's whiskey.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I was interested in watching this, I've only managed 30 mins before work but annoyed the boys havnt pushed back a lot more, this could have been a very interesting and informed debate, instead its a bit of a soliloquy so far...

@Welsh Exile - you might like this

I’ve listened to almost an hour of this and I’ve yet to hear one single criticism of the Israeli government/IDF.

At least he didn’t fail my other test (referring to West Bank as Judea and Samaria)

 

[dirty harry]

I've listened to almost an hour of this and I've yet to hear one single criticism of the Israeli government/IDF.

At least he didn't fail my other test (referring to West Bank as Judea and Samaria)

He lost me aboutb20 mins in when he made the claim IDF did not block aid for 3 months at all, it was just 11 weeks

Ffs

 

[Reiser99]

Done right, ID cards with apps can be incredibly cost effective. I'm in Qatar and everything is on one app. If I get a traffic fine I can pay it immediately. I can renew my driving licence, do the admin for registering a car etc...

Apart from getting the ID card the first time I don't have to go to any government building to do admin.

 

[Welsh Exile]

He lost me aboutb20 mins in when he made the claim IDF did not block aid for 3 months at all, it was just 11 weeks

Ffs

This is an hour and a half long but the first 30 mins or so is Benny going through BS Israeli talking points.