A Political Thread pt. 2

[Ddanno]

I use ad blocker extensions like ghostery but youtube seem to have upped their game in detecting them.

Duckduckgo and Brave have no issues in my experience, never an ad using it through those browsers

 

[General Melchett]

Duckduckgo and Brave have no issues in my experience, never an ad using it through those browsers

Strange because I use DDG as my main browser.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I got a free trial of youtube premium a year or two ago and I can't go back now,
I watch most of my youtube through apps (TV, mainly) so ad blockers aren't really a thing - Youtube Music is a nice add on as well (don't use it that often, mainly for listening to live concerts in the gym), and being able to download videos for offline viewing (flights etc.)/picture in picture/being able to play videos when your phone screen is locked (again: good for music/concerts)

 

[Ddanno]

Strange because I use DDG as my main browser.

That is strange. I only get ads through the app if I watch through the PS5

 

[Welsh Exile]

In fairness I paid for it with the time I gave up watching ads because I refuse to stump up for premium.

Sounds like something a broke loser would say. How's your investment portfolio looking bro? Yeah I thought so.

 

[dirty harry]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You really are something else

Wait, is this a controversial opinion?

Carney is a banker with no political experience, he speaks money, his campaign was pretty much '**** Trump' and Trump played into that.

Carney’s victory owes much to circumstance – and to Trump

Canadian PM right candidate for the moment in success shaped more by chance than meticulous planning

www.theguardian.com

Trump is amidst a Trade war, in this situation who would be his preferred opposition, a non politician with no allies, no networks of global leaders, no experience who knows one thing, money. He lives in Trump's world. The alternative is apolitical attack dog, Canada first type candidate who is as ego driven as Trump is.

Carneys campaign hinged on Trump's attack, why do you guys think Trump kept making those comments leading up to the final days?

I read a few articles about it and thought it made absolute sense.

Edit try this link lol

Canada's Liberals secure comeback victory made possible by Trump

Mark Carney's party pull off an election win that once looked near-impossible, until the US president targeted Canada.

www.bbc.com

 

[dirty harry]

The leaps of logic are astounding.

I mean, it's being reported pretty regularly, that Trump gave Carney an assist, why do younthink he did that?

 

[ncurd]

Poilievre lost his seat and all of Ottawa and surrounding area is now Liberal.

Having spent significant time out there that feels good.

 

[dirty harry]

Poilievre lost his seat and all of Ottawa and surrounding area is now Liberal.

Having spent significant time out there that feels good.

Is there any concern about a non politically experienced banker being in control?

I'm not really immersed in Canadian politics, or culture tbh, but the idea of a banker becoming Prime Minister within months, especially as a liberal, seems a little illiberal to me. Maybe I'm contextualising that in US terms.

 

[Saintjay]

Is there any concern about a non politically experienced banker being in control?

I'm not really immersed in Canadian politics, or culture tbh, but the idea of a banker becoming Prime Minister within months, especially as a liberal, seems a little illiberal to me. Maybe I'm contextualising that in US terms.

Could be wrong but did Trump have much political experience prior. I don't think Starmer had much more than 9 years before becoming PM.

You could make the argument that's part of the issue or equaly appeal in not being part of the establishment for both Trump and Carney.

Carney has experience as a senior civil servant in Canads and as head of the B of E so he knows the circles to move in and how the game works I think

 

[dirty harry]

Could be wrong but did Trump have much political experience prior. I don't think Starmer had much more than 9 years before becoming PM.

You could make the argument that's part of the issue or equaly appeal in not being part of the establishment for both Trump and Carney.

Carney has experience as a senior civil servant in Canads and as head of the B of E so he knows the circles to move in and how the game works I think

I think there was probably a good level of concern by Trump's lack of experience, maybe Carney is benefiting the same way Trump did, non politicians can be attractive to those disillusioned by politics.

I know next to nothing about Carney, outside of the last 4 weeks of campaigning. As I stated, he timed the election perfectly, and run a very clever campaign on pretty much 1 issue, he also managed really well to distance from Treudau, fair play to him.

I'd be fascinated by A Canadian POV, both from liberal and conservatives.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I think there was probably a good level of concern by Trump's lack of experience, maybe Carney is benefiting the same way Trump did, non politicians can be attractive to those disillusioned by politics.

I know next to nothing about Carney, outside of the last 4 weeks of campaigning. As I stated, he timed the election perfectly, and run a very clever campaign on pretty much 1 issue, he also managed really well to distance from Treudau, fair play to him.

I'd be fascinated by A Canadian POV, both from liberal and conservatives.

People are pretty stupid and for some reason think that Trump hasn't been part of the "establishment" his whole life because he's not a politician.

 

[dirty harry]

People are pretty stupid and for some reason think that Trump hasn't been part of the "establishment" his whole life because he's not a politician.

100% agree.

Of course he and his businessmen ilk are embedded with politicians!!!

 

[Welsh Exile]

100% agree.

Of course he and his businessmen ilk are embedded with politicians!!!

Same thing with Fararge over here. For some reason people thought coz he liked a beer down the pub he was in tune with the people and conveniently forgot he was a politician for years and prior to that part of business elite/establishment and had a silver spoon so far down his mouth it was coming out of his arse.

 

[dirty harry]

Same thing with Fararge over here. For some reason people thought coz he liked a beer down the pub he was in tune with the people and conveniently forgot he was a politician for years and prior to that part of business elite/establishment and had a silver spoon so far down his mouth it was coming out of his arse.

Cleverly staged photo opps of him with a pint, a cigarette in a Boozer etc didn't hurt...

Interestingly, I've been reading a bit about Carney and Pollievre, and the more I read the more I think Trump was trying to assist Carney, hell he's even bragging about it already lol.

Carney and Trump had a 'productive' phone call recently, Pollievre accused Carney of not being honest about what was said.

Pollievre kept responding to Trump and making himself look bad on social media, while Carney kept his sound bites concise and powerful, much less whingey.

Carney also made noises before the snap about how well he and Trump would negotiate on trade and security, and his would be the first call after the elections.

Apparently Pollievre is a pit bull, and conservatives sell him as someone who would give no inch in negotiations, and secure Canadas place at the top table by any means necessary.

Ultimately time will tell, if nothing else I'm glad Carney won to not have to spell or pronounce pollievre regularly hahaha

 

[General Melchett]

Trump bragging about assisting Carney proves nothing. He's basically just selling whatever he can to MAGA.

What's more likely is that he wanted his fellow conservative to win and people in his inner circle were too afraid to tell him he was doing more harm than good.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Cleverly staged photo opps of him with a pint, a cigarette in a Boozer etc didn't hurt...

Interestingly, I've been reading a bit about Carney and Pollievre, and the more I read the more I think Trump was trying to assist Carney, hell he's even bragging about it already lol.

Carney and Trump had a 'productive' phone call recently, Pollievre accused Carney of not being honest about what was said.

Pollievre kept responding to Trump and making himself look bad on social media, while Carney kept his sound bites concise and powerful, much less whingey.

Carney also made noises before the snap about how well he and Trump would negotiate on trade and security, and his would be the first call after the elections.

Apparently Pollievre is a pit bull, and conservatives sell him as someone who would give no inch in negotiations, and secure Canadas place at the top table by any means necessary.

Ultimately time will tell, if nothing else I'm glad Carney won to not have to spell or pronounce pollievre regularly hahaha

Trump has frequently supported people and then his support has directly led to their defeat. This would imply Trump has the self awareness to know he's extremely unpopular and the critical thinking to know he could use that to support someone he doesn't want to win. There is absolutely zero evidence he functions at that level.

All he's done is backed the wrong horse and his trying to get out of admitting it.

 

[ncurd]

There's no way he wants Carney who's pro free trade and anti Brexit when he wants to negotiate hard trade deals that are restrictive on which goods and personnel benefit.

He also wants to promote that his brand of politics is popular globally.

 

[dirty harry]

Trump bragging about assisting Carney proves nothing. He's basically just selling whatever he can to MAGA.

What's more likely is that he wanted his fellow conservative to win and people in his inner circle were too afraid to tell him he was doing more harm than good.

I would agree with this, and was thinking this way myself, until I read about he and Carneys phone call, the comments on Trump being the first call to negotiate trade and defence etc...

Put yourselves in Trump's position, who would you prefer to be negotiating with, the pit bull Canada first candidate, who responds to you on social media and is ego driven, or the numbers man, the banker who lives in your world, and can empathise with the transition from business to leading a country?

From what I've seen, Trump hasn't aligned or endorsed anyone, maybe I've missed it, but I keep hearing he was with the conservative(if you beleive Trump is even conservative himself).

4 weeks ago, on anti Trump sentiment the polls leaned away from Pollievre, in fact the election could be argued a result of anti Trump sentiment swinging Carney back into the game. The more Trump talked about Canada, the more Carney gained ground, until days before Trump doubles down and Carney wins.

If let's say Trump is a moron, surely he would have seen 1 article talking about how Carney gains ground every time he opens his mouth, why would he not was lyrical about Carney every minute of the day, initiate a phone call and talk about how great their relationship will be?

I'm not claiming this as fact, but let's see if Carney runs straight to Trump and what comes of it

Edit.

Interestingly hasn't Pollierve talked about energy more, attempting to redirect then80% it sends to the USA to Europe.

That's a decent incentive no?

 

[McTallshort]

I have YouTube premium as part of a phone contract and I make a lot of use of it. By far my most used Social media platform.