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A Political Thread pt. 2

Absolute ********, it's 3 counties where there has been a drastic swing away from them and that is entirely on Trump, nothing else has happened to have caused the sudden swing away.

Our attitudes are not fueling far right sentiment. Immigration and a lack of wealth going to the masses in society is what is fueling it, same as it always has. The culture wars crap is largely driven by the far right. Take the whole hysterics about trans bathroom use, the whole trans sexual predators in women's toilets is a purely fabricated scenario intended to get the far right angry and has zero basis in reality. It's quite telling that, when asked about women who transitioned to be male and look male, which bathroom they should use, the far right suddenly don't have a ******* clue because they haven't thought beyond their specific fictional scenario.
I think that scenario is based on trans in prisons have a higher sexual offences rate than males and females as a percentage of prison population.

With researching indicating male to females retained an offending rates similar to males and not females in regards to violent crime.
 
I think that scenario is based on trans in prisons have a higher sexual offences rate than males and females as a percentage of prison population.

With researching indicating male to females retained an offending rates similar to males and not females in regards to violent crime.
Unfortunately my perspective is "people" are nowhere near as nuanced as that and are primarily talking about use of public spaces such as restaurants and leisure centers.

Prisons should absolutely be a separate discussion, personally one taken of, if the offender who is already a proven issue to society if their transition or self identity is real or one which is being used for gain.
 


Would like to have seen this happen earlier but better late than never. I hope our Government continue to refer to them as "this Israeli Government" or "Netanyahu's Government" as opposed to Israel. The war monger and butcher of Palestine needs to start feeling the heat even though Trump is giving him a free pass.
 
Absolute ********, it's 3 counties where there has been a drastic swing away from them and that is entirely on Trump, nothing else has happened to have caused the sudden swing away.

Our attitudes are not fueling far right sentiment. Immigration and a lack of wealth going to the masses in society is what is fueling it, same as it always has. The culture wars crap is largely driven by the far right. Take the whole hysterics about trans bathroom use, the whole trans sexual predators in women's toilets is a purely fabricated scenario intended to get the far right angry and has zero basis in reality. It's quite telling that, when asked about women who transitioned to be male and look male, which bathroom they should use, the far right suddenly don't have a ******* clue because they haven't thought beyond their specific fictional scenario.

Drastic swing? The Canadian incumbent, who's party has dominated, struggled to overcome a resurgent Polievre (I'm glad he lost tbh, just sonic don't have to spell his name too often hahaha).

Romania actually voted right, before it was reset with alleged Russian interference, now there is claims of French interference lol.

Neither of these countries were 'drastic swings' were they, let's be honest. The hard right increases are continual, I don't think banning the AFD or imprisoning Lepen stops that threat.

I'll give you, immigration and lack of wealth are huge factors, and I 100% agree the trans issue in any other era would be a minor one, led by hard-line feminists and hardcore Muslims, not aligned though, but today, where every issue promoted to good and bad it's gone front and centre. And it's front and centre because of attitudes like this.

The term nazi and far right has been so irresponsibly used over the last decade, they've lost all meaning. 4 times in 10 weeks on this thread alone it's been used against me, hilariously so lol. The reluctance to be honest, the hysteria and emotional disregulation to Trump spills to all areas of discussion, not just in tiny little threads like this, but in leaders, like David Lammy lol

We don't counter hard right attitudes without integrity, and if that means enduring leaders we don't like, holding them to true account for acts they've done, and taking the narrative back from sensationalism and rage bait from journalism
 
Drastic swing? The Canadian incumbent, who's party has dominated, struggled to overcome a resurgent Polievre (I'm glad he lost tbh, just sonic don't have to spell his name too often hahaha).

Romania actually voted right, before it was reset with alleged Russian interference, now there is claims of French interference lol.

Neither of these countries were 'drastic swings' were they, let's be honest. The hard right increases are continual, I don't think banning the AFD or imprisoning Lepen stops that threat.

I'll give you, immigration and lack of wealth are huge factors, and I 100% agree the trans issue in any other era would be a minor one, led by hard-line feminists and hardcore Muslims, not aligned though, but today, where every issue promoted to good and bad it's gone front and centre. And it's front and centre because of attitudes like this.

The term nazi and far right has been so irresponsibly used over the last decade, they've lost all meaning. 4 times in 10 weeks on this thread alone it's been used against me, hilariously so lol. The reluctance to be honest, the hysteria and emotional disregulation to Trump spills to all areas of discussion, not just in tiny little threads like this, but in leaders, like David Lammy lol

We don't counter hard right attitudes without integrity, and if that means enduring leaders we don't like, holding them to true account for acts they've done, and taking the narrative back from sensationalism and rage bait from journalism
You've not been called a Nazi as far as I can see. Far right I don't think so either.

While Trump isn't a Nazi I think it's silly to deny he's authoritarian and has fascistic tendencies.
 
We don't counter hard right attitudes without integrity, and if that means enduring leaders we don't like, holding them to true account for acts they've done, and taking the narrative back from sensationalism and rage bait from journalism
You argued Trump can't be an idiot precisely because he WASN'T held to account. You've also claimed the lack of charges are evidence of a witch hunt and sensationalism rather than corruption.

You can't state you want to hold leaders to account and then reel off a list of excuses every time someone tries to do exactly that with Trump.
 
You argued Trump can't be an idiot precisely because he WASN'T held to account. You've also claimed the lack of charges are evidence of a witch hunt and sensationalism rather than corruption.

You can't state you want to hold leaders to account and then reel off a list of excuses every time someone tries to do exactly that with Trump.
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