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That is good news, boost for the boys for sure and I'm glad Aurilliac released him, I'm guessing Tieddemann to the bench then. I'm wondering if we'll still be carrying one of those extra props in the squad or whether Woolbridge or Dolezel will no longer be needed.
 
Just took a look at the squad Psychic, it's not as good as I hoped they could send but not as bad as I had feared.

Looks like the backs as you say are at least first choice, which Georgia really needed since Canada is stronger than them there. I don't think the front five match up that badly with what Canada has, but the loose forwards are a strength for us, and the Georgians missing some of their world class options here really hurts for them.
 
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Now that Marshall has been added to the team and the replacments of Connor Braid have been chosen here is my preferred lineup guys.

Part of my reasoning for some choices, Jebb I think has to move up to 2nd row because Carpenter fits in best at #8. Evans will have to start at #10 being backed up by the kids, as the lack of specialist FH's is deeply concerning. I would like to see Duke's speed in the lineup, but I've kept Hearn on the bench because he is versatile and as a goal kicking option should Pritchard be unable to fufill those duties. Mainly it's about getting the best possible guys out there even if the positions are their second choice.

1. Hubert Buydens
2. Ryan Hamilton
3. Jason Marshall
4. Jebb Sinclair
5. Tyler Hotson
6. Nanyak Dala
7. Chauncey O'Toole
8. Aaron Carpenter *
9. Ed Fairhurst *
10. Matt Evans
11. Phil Mackenzie
12. Conor Trainor
13. DTH Van De Merwe
14. Sean Duke
15. James Pritchard *

Bench

16. Mike Pletch
17. Andrew Tieddemann
18. Jon Phelan
19. Tyler Ardron
20. Sean White
21. Harry Jones, Liam Underwood, Patrick Parfrey(whoever's game it is in the rotation)
22. Ciaran Hearn

Note * is a player I feel is a good option for Captain/Vice-Captain duties.
 
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Are these game being televised?

I'm trying to find out Cymro, nothing has been announced yet, I will keep checking the channels schedules. They might also be streamed which is a bit concerning to me since often the streams have issues especially if tons of people log in to view the game.

It's better than nothing if it's streamed but I would obviously prefer TV, I'm going to the Italy game in person(sitting front row), and I could make it to Kingston for the States but it's a bit of a drive for me. Can't make it to BC for the Georgia game though LOL.

Edit: Looks like Aaron Carpenter has been named captain of the squad a good choice in my opinion.
 
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Now that Marshall has been added to the team and the replacments of Connor Braid have been chosen here is my preferred lineup guys.

you guys still have Connor Braid in contention for a place in the team?

he was utterly awful when Canada came to Georgia in 2010, that match also ended the international career of Tkachuk, he was dismantled by Zirakashvili

by the way Dimitri Basilaia has been added to the Georgia squad

@Little Guy: do you know whether Phil MacKenzie has any clubs lined up for next season? he should be playing at a higher level than National Division 1 in England (the third division), from what I've seen of him he's a very handy player

I would take him at the Ospreys, as there has been somewhat of a large exodus of wingers (Bowe, Phillips, Prydie, Shane, Nikki Walker), and there is need for another

his ability to cover centre is also very useful, as presuming Beck is on international duty for much of next season, then the Ospreys are short on centres
 
you guys still have Connor Braid in contention for a place in the team?

he was utterly awful when Canada came to Georgia in 2010, that match also ended the international career of Tkachuk, he was dismantled by Zirakashvili

by the way Dimitri Basilaia has been added to the Georgia squad

@Little Guy: do you know whether Phil MacKenzie has any clubs lined up for next season? he should be playing at a higher level than National Division 1 in England (the third division), from what I've seen of him he's a very handy player

I would take him at the Ospreys, as there has been somewhat of a large exodus of wingers (Bowe, Phillips, Prydie, Shane, Nikki Walker), and there is need for another

his ability to cover centre is also very useful, as presuming Beck is on international duty for much of next season, then the Ospreys are short on centres

Flyhalf has always been a hard position for Canada to develop and if we're being realistic, a few games does not make a player.
If Canada ever gets an above average to very good fly half then they'll be set.

I reckon this game will be very similar that one. Canada's scrum is OK at best and Georgia makes life difficult in that area, even for the best. I personally think the game will be won in the backs or loose play, Canada has some very good backs and some very good loosies at running the ball. However Georgia will dominate the scrum and from positions 1-22 (possibly even the coaching staff and waterboy) everyone on that team can tackle and ruck.

Phi MacKenzie is part of a long list that includes James Pritchard, Adam Kleeberger, Chauncey O'toole and Aaron Carpenter. I personally blame both the import cap rule in the premiership and the focus on national team players in the Rabo. France is an option but difficult to get into. Hopefully players like Jebb Sinclair can make some room down south for some future players.

I completely agree with the sentiment in your bio.
 
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Was Evans the fly-half that played so well for Canada at the RWC?

Edit: Scary thought, the RWC was 8/9 months ago. Is it just me that feels like time is flying at the speed of light?
 
you guys still have Connor Braid in contention for a place in the team?

he was utterly awful when Canada came to Georgia in 2010, that match also ended the international career of Tkachuk, he was dismantled by Zirakashvili

To be fair to Connor Braid that Georgia game was only his second cap with his first being won weeks earlier against Belgium where he subbed on for the last 5 minutes of the game at the fullback position and then flew back home to Canada after the match. By the time the Georgia game came around Canada's fly-half options (Ander Monro, Nathan Hirayama, and Matt Evans) were all out with injuries and so Braid was recalled from Canada to become the team's starting fly-half. He was sort of thrown into that match and was only 20 years old and therefore still very "green". After watching his performance with the Maple Leafs (Canada 'A') against the Ontario Blues earlier this year I was very impressed with how he had progressed and looked forward to seeing him take on a more involved role at the fly-half position but alas injury got him. However, I feel he still has a bright future with the national team.

Ref: http://www.spjournal.com/article/GB...injury-problems-at-fly-half&template=stpcpart

Also, it looks as if TSN2 will be broadcasting the Canada v Italy match, however, no indication as to whether or not the USA and/or Georgia matches will be televised.

Ref: http://www.tsn.ca/mobiletv/feature/?Id=40411
 
Flyhalf has always been a hard position for Canada to develop and if we're being realistic, a few games does not make a player.
If Canada ever gets an above average to very good fly half then they'll be set.

I reckon this game will be very similar that one. Canada's scrum is OK at best and Georgia makes life difficult in that area, even for the best. I personally think the game will be won in the backs or loose play, Canada has some very good backs and some very good loosies at running the ball. However Georgia will dominate the scrum and from positions 1-22 (possibly even the coaching staff and waterboy) everyone on that team can tackle and ruck.

Phi MacKenzie is part of a long list that includes James Pritchard, Adam Kleeberger, Chauncey O'toole and Aaron Carpenter. I personally blame both the import cap rule in the premiership and the focus on national team players in the Rabo. France is an option but difficult to get into. Hopefully players like Jebb Sinclair can make some room down south for some future players.

I completely agree with the sentiment in your bio.

I would be confident about the Georgian scrum but .....

the Georgian scrum was great in the ENC and the November matches of 2010, but was disappointing and only adequate during the RWC due to playing a very small hooker, it did well in this year's ENC, but there are several players missing in the front row for this tour

Mikheil Nariashvili of Montpellier is likely to start at 1, as the two best looseheads Kakovin and Khinchagishvili are missing, and he is very inexperienced for a prop (just turned 22) so can't be relied upon

Zirakashvili is on good form and in the squad and was immense vs Canada in 2010, he is a good scrummager, but not the top one which Jgenti and Kubriashvili are, Zirakashvili in the loose is much better than those two, but isn't quite as good at scrum

meanwhile hooker, is down to third choice with Bregvadze and Natriashvili (a converted prop who is a very good scrummaging hooker) are both missing, so there is Giorgadze recalled into the team and he is really getting on in years (now 36) and may have declined

so that isn't as strong as it could be, but that is the biggest strength Georgia have over Canada so it will be crucial to the result

unfortunately Gorgodze is missing too, so there is the best ball carrying asset Georgia have, and pushes the reliance even more on a depleted front row which isn't that trustworthy (with the exception of Zirakashvili)

by the way, there is no way the 10 Merab Kvirikashvili can tackle and ruck, he's like a Dan Parks tackler!

I too dislike the non European player rule in European competitions, it favours very much Samoans, Fijians, Tongans or Vodacom Cup standard South Africans who it doesn't effect getting pro contracts ahead of Canadians, Americans or Japanese

there are many more Canadians who in my opinion are good enough for the top European leagues, such as Kleeberger and MacKenzie

if there is going to be a foreign player rule, then it should count to all the foreigners, not allow some nations to be able to avoid it whilst it effects others

Was Evans the fly-half that played so well for Canada at the RWC?

Edit: Scary thought, the RWC was 8/9 months ago. Is it just me that feels like time is flying at the speed of light?

Monro was the Canadian RWC fly half in 2011

Are these game being televised?

pretty certain it will be, probably not on UK tv, but should will be links online
 
Was Evans the fly-half that played so well for Canada at the RWC?

Edit: Scary thought, the RWC was 8/9 months ago. Is it just me that feels like time is flying at the speed of light?

That was Ander Monro, Sker. He has been like a fine wine improving with age, unfortunately he is out of action for the June Test series. His snap drop goal vs. France was pretty awesome. Also had a try vs. Japan and his darting run past a couple of Tongans set up Mackenzie's try in that amazing game. I agree Sker can't beleive how long ago the RWC was seems like yesterday.

Agree with Canucks and Run34 on Braid, he really was thrown into the fire against Georgia in only his 2nd cap. Boy did Tkachuk have a rough one that game, he was having injury issues all that season though and it wasn't too surprsing that he retired at the end of that year.

We are dreadfully thin at FH for this tour though, Evans has to play out of position, or we throw one of the kids into the fire. The emergency options are Pritch and His Edness, I'm not sure yet whether Ed is available for all three games he frequently has issues with getting time off work.

I don't think the Georgian scrum will be nearly as dominating this June as it was last time round in November 2010, as Psychic stated several key Georgian players are out of action. And we can't discount the improvement in our scrummaging, ever since the IRB launched that scrum clinic for us in the spring of last year the improvment has been pretty dramatic.

I'm still a little worried about our Hooker situation and Cudmore not being around will be a blow but I think Hotson will fit in quite nicely. Marshall is now going to be available and Buydens has played solidly for some time now.

Mackenzie was tracked by London Wasps around the time of the RWC, but wasn't picked up hopefully they might give him another look, or at least another RFU Championship team could give him a shot. Hotson is also looking for another club, and it looks like the search is going well but details haven't been released yet.

I hope the other games are televised, it would be pretty annoying to have the one I'm going to be the only one shown, I'm still up in the air about going to Kingston, obviously can't make it to Burnaby. They might be streamed by Rugby Canada but that often has it's share of technical issues. TSN and TSN2 don't have their schedules posted yet, if an American channel is showing Canada vs. USA I can't see a Canadian channel not picking up the simulcast or vice versa.

Edit: It's possible that TSN may not be offering the games on the mobile platform but just on standard TV, have to keep our eyes on the schedule, TSN the main network will be showing EURO 2012 during the Canada vs. States game so TSN2 is the only option there. Sportsnet also has there programming for this Saturday released and it's not there(I was thinking TSN was the probable channel but was worth a look)
 
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So what should Georgians worry about ?
here are some predictions about our weak spots
1)Line outs
Our starting hookers are missing, Giorgadze is coming back from a very bad injury, Gorgodze and Datunashvili are huge when it comes to line outs but both of them missing, kolelishvili is also out. that leaves us with Chkaidze an injured hooker and a bunch of inexperienced guys trying to beat Canadian line out.

2)As stated above Flankers will be very inexperienced(Compared to Vito, Godzilla, Chkaidze,) since Chkaidze will have to fill in for datunashvili in the 2nd row!
I think this will put more pressure on our back line, usually gorgodze and kolelishvili are masters when it comes to taking pressure off of tired backs. here we wot have such luxuries so I'm a bit nervous about the response from Kvirikashvili and company.

3)our scrum half will need to adjust his tactics and focus more on back plays rather than usual pick and go and short forward hits. This might create some confusion within the team, that's exactly what happened against Spain, and we all know what happened there. however I like our new coach he seems to know exactly what he wants to do and it looks like he has a plan.

There is also a game against Ukraine very soon, I hope to see the rough draft of the game against Canada and the US
 
1)Line outs
Our starting hookers are missing, Giorgadze is coming back from a very bad injury, Gorgodze and Datunashvili are huge when it comes to line outs but both of them missing, kolelishvili is also out. that leaves us with Chkaidze an injured hooker and a bunch of inexperienced guys trying to beat Canadian line out.

2)As stated above Flankers will be very inexperienced(Compared to Vito, Godzilla, Chkaidze,) since Chkaidze will have to fill in for datunashvili in the 2nd row!
I think this will put more pressure on our back line, usually gorgodze and kolelishvili are masters when it comes to taking pressure off of tired backs. here we wot have such luxuries so I'm a bit nervous about the response from Kvirikashvili and company.

3)our scrum half will need to adjust his tactics and focus more on back plays rather than usual pick and go and short forward hits. This might create some confusion within the team, that's exactly what happened against Spain, and we all know what happened there. however I like our new coach he seems to know exactly what he wants to do and it looks like he has a plan.

There is also a game against Ukraine very soon, I hope to see the rough draft of the game against Canada and the US

I agree pretty most of this,

Datunashvili is the best Georgian lineout lock, and can poach other team's lineouts, pretty silly selection for Dixon to leave him on the bench for some of the World Cup to be honest, the lineout without him against England in the RWC was poor, he will be missed, not sure Vakhtang Maisuradze is as good, although he has got a pro contract for decent Pro D2 side next season in Albi, Chkhaidze did well at lock during the ENC I thought but he's not really a lineout lock

the back row is missing the talisman and the best tackler, and two players of Top 14 level, Basilaia had a good World Cup but is nowhere near as good and complete as Gorgodze, hopefully playing with Edinburgh improves his weaknesses, Sutiashvili is okay, may not win matches like others, but can at least tackle well, but the openside Berishvili is probably the weakest link in the pack, if O'Toole rediscovers his Churchill Cup form and Kleeberger is also on form then Canada should dominate there
 
Berishvili is probably the weakest link in the pack, if O'Toole rediscovers his Churchill Cup form and Kleeberger is also on form then Canada should dominate there
yes my exact thoughts, Berishvili has great potential but is about 3 years behind everyone else. same could be said about Nariashvili last year, but Contract with Montpelier helped him improve rapidly.
Sutiashvili is a reliable player with great work rate, Perhaps a replacement for Chkaidze in future who has really set the standard for others as far as hard work goes!
 
Kleeberger is out of action for Canada guys he just had surgery and is out for four months. I expect Nanyak Dala will pick up the majority of the action in replacement, he's a fairly useful player in his own right but a downgrade from Kleeberger in most areas. Totally agreed on Chauncey O'Toole needs to play like he did at the last two Churchill Cup's.... maybe he just plays well in June LOL.
 
That was Ander Monro, Sker. He has been like a fine wine improving with age, unfortunately he is out of action for the June Test series. His snap drop goal vs. France was pretty awesome. Also had a try vs. Japan and his darting run past a couple of Tongans set up Mackenzie's try in that amazing game. I agree Sker can't beleive how long ago the RWC was seems like yesterday.

Agree with Canucks and Run34 on Braid, he really was thrown into the fire against Georgia in only his 2nd cap. Boy did Tkachuk have a rough one that game, he was having injury issues all that season though and it wasn't too surprsing that he retired at the end of that year.

We are dreadfully thin at FH for this tour though, Evans has to play out of position, or we throw one of the kids into the fire. The emergency options are Pritch and His Edness, I'm not sure yet whether Ed is available for all three games he frequently has issues with getting time off work.

I don't think the Georgian scrum will be nearly as dominating this June as it was last time round in November 2010, as Psychic stated several key Georgian players are out of action. And we can't discount the improvement in our scrummaging, ever since the IRB launched that scrum clinic for us in the spring of last year the improvment has been pretty dramatic.

I'm still a little worried about our Hooker situation
and Cudmore not being around will be a blow but I think Hotson will fit in quite nicely. Marshall is now going to be available and Buydens has played solidly for some time now.

Mackenzie was tracked by London Wasps around the time of the RWC, but wasn't picked up hopefully they might give him another look, or at least another RFU Championship team could give him a shot. Hotson is also looking for another club, and it looks like the search is going well but details haven't been released yet.

I hope the other games are televised, it would be pretty annoying to have the one I'm going to be the only one shown, I'm still up in the air about going to Kingston, obviously can't make it to Burnaby. They might be streamed by Rugby Canada but that often has it's share of technical issues. TSN and TSN2 don't have their schedules posted yet, if an American channel is showing Canada vs. USA I can't see a Canadian channel not picking up the simulcast or vice versa.

Edit: It's possible that TSN may not be offering the games on the mobile platform but just on standard TV, have to keep our eyes on the schedule, TSN the main network will be showing EURO 2012 during the Canada vs. States game so TSN2 is the only option there. Sportsnet also has there programming for this Saturday released and it's not there(I was thinking TSN was the probable channel but was worth a look)

To the bolded, I guess I'm going to have to get back in shape and give it a try. Lol, this country would be in such trouble if I ever needed to play for it. Let me put it to you this way, my lineout throwing is so bad that I somehow managed to overthrow our 7'0" jumper.

I feel bad saying Monro isn't good because he is very good. Solid defensively and has a little bit of attacking flair, he just lacks the kicking skills (drop goals aside.) If he had Jared Barker's kicking, then we'd be in business. I've never played Connor Braid, so I cannot comment on him, however Hiriyama would be a good player to give a shot. He has excellent vision and can be a right ******* to contain if he goes on one of his runs. Not very fast but he finds space (sometimes through crossing or running behind a guy on his team and pushing him at you like a decoy.) The only knocks are his size and defensive abilities (which can be improved on.)

I don't understand why McCann isn't getting a shot. He is the only European based fly half that we have albeit on an Academy side. I'm not advocating throwing him in the fire, however you could ask him to play may 20-30 minutes and just advise him to keep it simple. It may even be worthwhile when Monro gets back to go the Dan Carter route to development and have play a few games at inside centre and a 2nd fly half (referring to the Carlos Spencer/Dan Carter days.)
 
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LOL, love that story Canucks. 7'0" what a monster!! I remember a guy that big coming out for the local team and I thought everyone was BSing me and that when I actually met him he'd be like 6'8''-6'9" ish.... than I saw him walk into the Wendy's we were eating at and he had to duck into the door, I had met a human being who was literally twice my size...LOL.

McCann is going to get some time with the U-20's which isn't too bad but I might have selected him over the other three rotational players, also Piatek from the Blues was an option I felt worth considering at fly half. Monro has improved his kicking out of hand but your right Canucks goal kicking isn't Monro's specialty, he has had a couple of good games( e.g. France "A') but when he filled in for Pritch at the RWC he didn't do very well.

Hirayama is out injured and I think was going to be the 2nd string, we really are down to the bare bones at FH, with the first three options all out hurt.
 
Kleeberger is out of action for Canada guys he just had surgery and is out for four months. I expect Nanyak Dala will pick up the majority of the action in replacement, he's a fairly useful player in his own right but a downgrade from Kleeberger in most areas. Totally agreed on Chauncey O'Toole needs to play like he did at the last two Churchill Cup's.... maybe he just plays well in June LOL.

Dala isn't necessarily a downgrade so much as a change in style imo. Dala is much better with ball in hand, has the pace of back but not so much of a forager as Kleeberger. So against the americans I can see him as an upgrade but against the Georgians maybe not
 
Dala isn't necessarily a downgrade so much as a change in style imo. Dala is much better with ball in hand, has the pace of back but not so much of a forager as Kleeberger. So against the americans I can see him as an upgrade but against the Georgians maybe not

That's a good point Rusty, I think Kleeberger would match up a little better against the Italians as well. Dala is fairly versatile which this side needs with some key players out, and the 7's game has really improved his ball handling and fitness. Ardron might be in play for a bench spot as well this tour.

By the way has anyone heard about Jeremy Kyne? Has he retired? All I had heard was that he was going to help Ryan Smith manage the Wolf-Pack this upcoming CRC season so I wasn't sure if he retired from playing or was just left off the team for other reasons.
 

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