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Poor match, a lot of kicking. Great DG from Hougaard from just inside quins half (probably 52 metres or so). Quins tight five not competitive enough - looks like they're gonna have problems there this year. Monye/Strettle/Lowe were excellent once again.
Harlequins (6) 9
Pens: Evans 3
Saracens (6) 22
Tries: Ratuvou
Cons: Hougaard
Pens: Hougaard 3
Drop-goals: Hougaard 2[/b]
Is Ugo been groomed as #15 for long-term or just covering injuries. Is Strettle not a more recognized 15 although i know Ugo has made great start there
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Mike Brown is their usual 15 (and a very good one at that) but he's injured for the first couple of months i think. Monye should replace Lowe at 11.
England also have injury concerns over Quins players Jordan Turner-Hall, who required a shoulder X-ray, and David Strettle, who has another foot problem.
England play their first autumn Test against Australia on 7 November, with matches against Argentina and New Zealand to follow on consecutive Saturdays.
Saracens director of rugby Brendan Venter admitted the loss of Borthwick would be a major blow for both club and country given his impressive start to the season.
If you talk about a disciplined, honest, hard-working individual then Steve Borthwick fits that bill 100%
Brendan Venter
"Steve is a little bit of a worry for us," Venter said. "He will have a scan and we will see how his rib is. He is just so courageous. He hurt his rib but he stayed on the field for which I am massively thankful.
"It would be a blow (if it turns out to be a broken rib) but we will deal with that if it comes. It is very hard for a coach to set a standard and a culture if you don't have a captain like that."
Borthwick, 29, has been the England captain since the 2008 Six Nations, retaining the job in manager Martin Johnson's first season in charge.
"If you talk about a disciplined, honest, hard-working individual then Steve Borthwick fits that bill 100%," added Venter. "I have been very blessed to have a captain like that.
"In our first two games this season Steve had the most contributions and the second most contributions. We measure everything - tackles, ball carries, his rucking, his defensive play - and he is right at the top of our team."
England are already without injured centre Riki Flutey and full-back Delon Armitage for the autumn Tests.
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Oh ********.
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Damn injuries but good to see Quins back on track after bloodgate scandal but will be interesting to see how ye go as season goes along but Turner-Hall will be a big loss if injury serious
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