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[2014 Mid-Year Test] Australia vs. France 07/06/14

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I hadn't though of that. A Toomua/Beale partnership does have some merit plus the Wallabies have a kicker in Beale. As you've highlighted his defense is a problem and that could potentially be partly solved by playing him on the wing in defense. Though not many coaches at international level like to do that. It's ok at Super level but at test level it doesn't always work. IMO if he does play he will defend at 12 as Link kept Cooper defending at 10 even though he put him at fullback during super level. It's an interesting proposition and I'm sure McKenzie will consider it.
 
Darwin said:
Beale is possibly an option at 10, but I don't expect the selectors will pick him there. Matt Toomua is the most obvious choice (and the best choice in my opinion). His running game is nowhere as dangerous as many of the other Australian 10 options (Beale, Foley, Cooper) but he is a solid distributor, and by far the best defender. The other options are probably Lealiifano (who plays mainly at 12, but is more than capable at 10), and Bernard Foley (who has a good running/distribution game, but struggles to control the game in my opinion, and has a bit of a limited kicking game...).

Berrick Barnes plays for Panosonic Wild Knights in Japan, hence is ineligible for Wallabies selection.
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cool, thanks man. I thought I hadn't seen Barnes in a whiiiiiiile, so he's in Japan aye....btw dude, are you a kiwi living in Australia ?
 
Big Ewis said:
cool, thanks man. I thought I hadn't seen Barnes in a whiiiiiiile, so he's in Japan aye....btw dude, are you a kiwi living in Australia ?
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Indeed I am a kiwi living in Australia. Just like half the players in the Aussie Super Rugby sides ;)
 
FrenchFan said:
c l'EDF des bras cassés..des mecs lessivés ou pas au niveau..3 branlées a rien
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yes our guys are tired, but no they're not "not at the level". You think we'll get smashed 3 times, we'll just have to see about that. Last year we went to New freaking Zealand, and were in the very middle of our identity crisis right after the shhittiest 6N of our history, and we genuinely could've won Test 1, got beaten badly but not as bad as the score suggests in Test 2, and undermanned we resisted well in Test 3 again (until that last late try that inflated the score).
We're more focused now and if we consider our last match, against Ireland, and project a logical progression from that, even very small, we should be competitive and I'd predict 1 win for France, 1 tight test, and then a handsome win from the hosts.
 
FrenchFan said:
blablablaaaaaaaaaa

record a débattre : marquer plus d'1 essai qu'en NZ

pour l'EDF des pieds nickelés c po gagné !!!
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scoring only 1 try in 3 tests last summer was pretty disastrous for France, yes...we'll do better than that for sure this year though. Can't do worse :p
 
Genia/Foley could be a mortal weapon. Watch out, Les Bleus! Watch out, All Blacks!

9- Genia
10- Foley
12- Toomua
15- Folau

If this lads going to play TRC such as this SR round, ABs must have carefull.

:cool: :rock:
 
c la tournée des branquignoles

la gde difference aujourdhui c ke les clubs sont PROS a fond

l'EDF elle fait du bricolage comme le dit PSA lui meme : « On fait avec les moyens du bord »

http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/-toutes-les-options-sont-ouvertes/469796

des mecs machés: Maestri Mas Fofana Huget etc des cassés de long terme : Dusautoir Ouedraogo

des mecs po du tout au niveau : Michalak Mach Mermoz Menini Guirado Medard (ouai meme qu'il est toulousain!! c dire!!!)

des mecs trop vieux pour la CdM: Tales

des mecs po a leur poste: Vahamina, Parra en 10

la liste des mecs qui devraient y etre est encore plus longue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
FrenchFan, come on man, it's an English speaking forum...I hate it when I go online and I read spanish everywhere, so I wouldn't want to do the same here.

So you're saying some of our guys don't have test level:
Médard is past test level, although he could still make for a good FB, but we have better. Menini we'll just have to see in a week. Mermoz isn't below test level, especially not this season.
Michalak agreed (although he was a top flyhalf just about 1 year ago...), Mach had one bad game for France but he's one solid hooker, Guirado is a utility test hooker but he's not BAD.
And if we don't see much of Mermoz or others it's because their clubs are loaded with internationals.

Parra at 10 is temporary. The staff wasn't going to call in a 10 to fly in all the way from France to Aus to learn all the schemes to play one test and get the fk out.
Talès is a good 10 with sound ability. Everyone would rather have FTD there, but the staff chose him. He's not too old for the RWC, but he'll be replaced by Plisson or Lopez shortly after that time.

And if PSA says "we do what we can with what we have", he's 100% right. Again, those summer tests have been there since the dawn of Rugby time and if the Top 14 season is so grueling and taking so long, what can the French staff do ? They'll have to make the best out of what's available. There's no choice.

Hansen (NZ coach) has talked about this: that he wanted to simply postpone the June tests to July for because England will be missing a few key players (like Courtney Lawes, Owen Farrell, Tom Wood). For wtvr reason, federations are stubborn in keeping it in June.
 
here's to betting Parra plays better at 10 in that first test than when Tales gets back for the spot. Watching him (Tales) play in the Top 14 final tonight really weighs heavy on my suspicions about him....what a mistake PSA has done playing him over Trinh-Duc, dear Lord.....it's just irrefutable. No possible discussion.
 
Should be interesting. France did better this year than last year but were still far from convincing. The 6N showed they are the polar opposite of England, fantastic players but the team is less than the sum of its parts. If they start playing properly as a team, they will be deadly. Unfortunately with France there doesn't seem to be any real direction to them. Can't say whether they are improving or getting worse, what their mentality and strategy is or anything. A team of cats is a good analogy I think.

I haven't been watching Australia recently so can't say much apart from they weren't that convincing against the Lions IMO and came worst off of the big 3 nations. Generally 2 teams that thrive in open and creative play so should be a good watch.
 
This should be 3-0 to the wallabies. Australian sides are really playing well and have some depth in key positions.
 
Big Ewis said:
Talès is a good 10 with sound ability. Everyone would rather have FTD there, but the staff chose him. He's not too old for the RWC, but he'll be replaced by Plisson or Lopez shortly after that time.

And if PSA says "we do what we can with what we have", he's 100% right. Again, those summer tests have been there since the dawn of Rugby time and if the Top 14 season is so grueling and taking so long, what can the French staff do ? They'll have to make the best out of what's available. There's no choice.

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Tales est trop vieux ds l'optique de la CdM. Hier soir il a aussi montré qu'il était trop lent en se prenant la marée ds les rognons 3 fois de suite. Il est l-e-n-t.

Elle est ringarde ton EDF parce qu'elle est pilotée par des mecs ringards d'une autre époque qui continuent de bricoler «avec les moyens du bord» -

du côté de la rade ils ont maintenant un car de cryothérapie qui suit l'équipe - c'est totalement inouie - en terme de récup et de prépa ils ont 10 ans d'avance sur l'EDF ringarde, ils sont sur une autre planete: celle de l'hyperprofessionnalisation
http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Article/Toulon-le-coup-de-froid/19697
 
well it's not "my" France side, it's yours too. Talès is slow indeed...but he can compete. And yes, I'm familiar with Toulon's cryotherapy, and yes they are ultra-professional. Everything about them excels...but although money isn't everything, it sure helps.

We'll just have to see what OUR France side manages in 3 tests. ;)
 
Parra won't be playing as 10 on Saturday, it was just to help out for training but Michalak and Talès are flying in on Tuesday.
I'll be cringing when Michalak comes on, he hasn't played for his club since God knows when, and he'll have, just like Talès, only a handful of days to practice with the team...oh boy.............
For Talès, he didn't have a great Top 14 final, but maybe it's best he flies right down to Australia and trains with France and plays test Rugby only a couple of days after his disappointment, it'll give him something tangible to focus on and hopefully he'll want to make amends for his mediocre form last weekend against Toulon.

So Australia really should win this first test...I think France will be willing, play an intense first match, but will be rusty, unprepared and sloppy. I don't think it'll be a blowout, but I see Australia winning it with a nice margin. We'll have to check out the XV's for the day, but France are without Bastareaud and Dulin for e.g. who've been essential.
 
Big Ewis said:
well it's not "my" France side, it's yours too. Talès is slow indeed...but he can compete. And yes, I'm familiar with Toulon's cryotherapy, and yes they are ultra-professional. Everything about them excels...but although money isn't everything, it sure helps.

We'll just have to see what OUR France side manages in 3 tests. ;)
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Elle est ringarde ton EDF aussi ringarde que les tests de juin qui servent à rien.
 
FrenchFan said:
Elle est ringarde ton EDF aussi ringarde que les tests de juin qui servent à rien.
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lol :lol: every time I see you've left a message, I know it's going to be something heavy to digest, esp. on this thread. You seem to have a big problem with the national team, bigger than you admit (to yourself ?). The way you respond, the hatred or at very least vehemence you put into your posts concerning the FFR...it's beyond objective reasoning, there's a little bit of passion there. It's like Toulouse vs France in your mind ! :p

Anyways, enjoy the show (because I know you'll be watching): Rémi Talès and his amazing flyhalf talents is going to feed our backline, possibly the most organized in world Rugby atm, and show the Aussie public how it's done. :p
 
TRF_Draggs said:
If you could keep the posts to English, it would be appreciated.
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he's in 'super angry rebel' mode. He doesn't care about the French national team, will post in French despite warnings, and I have a feeling he may take a pi*s with the lid up tonight !!....
 
Wobblies team named

1. James Slipper (Reds)
2. Stephen Moore (c) (Brumbies)
3. Sekope Kepu (Waratahs)
4. Rob Simmons (Reds)
5. Sam Carter (Brumbies
6. Scott Fardy (Brumbies)
7. Michael Hooper (Waratahs)
8. Wycliff Palu (Waratahs)
9. Nic White (Brumbies)
10. Bernard Foley (Waratahs)
11. Nick Cummins (Force)
12. Matt Toomua (Brumbies)
13. Tevita Kuridrani (Brumbies)
14. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs)
15. Israel Folau (Waratahs)
16. Tatafu Polota-Nau (Waratahs)
17. Pek Cowan (Force)
18. Paddy Ryan (Waratahs)
19. James Horwill (Reds)
20. Ben McCalman (Force)
21. Nick Phipps (Waratahs)
22. Kurtley Beale (Waratahs)
23. Pat McCabe (Brumbies)
 
InsaneAsylum said:
Wobblies team named

1. James Slipper (Reds)
2. Stephen Moore (c) (Brumbies)
3. Sekope Kepu (Waratahs)
4. Rob Simmons (Reds)
5. Sam Carter (Brumbies
6. Scott Fardy (Brumbies)
7. Michael Hooper (Waratahs)
8. Wycliff Palu (Waratahs)
9. Nic White (Brumbies)
10. Bernard Foley (Waratahs)
11. Nick Cummins (Force)
12. Matt Toomua (Brumbies)
13. Tevita Kuridrani (Brumbies)
14. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs)
15. Israel Folau (Waratahs)
16. Tatafu Polota-Nau (Waratahs)
17. Pek Cowan (Force)
18. Paddy Ryan (Waratahs)
19. James Horwill (Reds)
20. Ben McCalman (Force)
21. Nick Phipps (Waratahs)
22. Kurtley Beale (Waratahs)
23. Pat McCabe (Brumbies)
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Wobblies :D

Good team, bud
 
I would have liked to see Jones get a go in front of Carter. But in saying that I'm hoping to see Jones given a go in Melbourne and Skelton a go in Sydney. Apart from that i'd like to see the rotation of number 8's between Paul, McCalman and Higginbotham. The backline is as expected though.
 

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